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What are the odds?

by: Looking ahead

I took all AP classes my senior year and graduated with a 3.96 on a 4-point scale. I have won music honors at the state level, went to state in swimming and soccer and was runner-up in a well-respected midwestern beauty pageant. (The scholarship money I won will really come in handy!) Anyway, here's my conundrum: I tend to be shy (though I have lots of good friends and abide by that adage "to have a friend, be a friend") and I am from out-of-state so I don't know anyone on campus. I am thinking of not following through with rush because the thought of it is a bit intimidating, but I think I would really miss the friendships that come with sorority life and am hoping to find a way to make a contribution in a sisterhood. Do you think I have a chance? Is it true that a lot of houses just take other women with whom they went to high school? I'm really confused about this. I don't want to embarrass myself if I don't have a chance, but I do think I have something to offer. What do YOU think?

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#1  by: obvious   
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Anyone so obviously taking the time and effort to invent scenarios for pretending on greekrank has no actual life. Sorry for you.

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#2  by: Just My Opinion   
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I think you have a better chance of getting into a good house than many other women going through rush. That's because no one knows you, so no one has a bias against you. I went through rush and didn't have nearly your qualifications, but also was from out of state, and I got into a great house. Just relax, because you will also be talking with people who tend to be introverts. What have you got to lose?

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#3  by: LOL    
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LOL

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#4  by: Let's talk about...   
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I recall being in a cut session two years ago where we eliminated a woman who I thought would be a real asset to our chapter. But a member of my chapter talked about how the potential PNM dated a guy in high school who had just broken up with the member's cousin and her cousin was heartbroken. I thought that was so unfair because 1. we didn't even know if this girl knew he had just broken up with someone 2. we only heard one side of the story and 3. it's HIGH SCVHOOL for god's sake. I guess my point is that if you don't know anyone in any sorority, they can't cut you for really ridiculous reasons. Count your blessings, because there are houses that heavily recruit just friends, and you sure don't want to be in one of those houses, either.

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by: fan fictionJul 26, 2025 9:22:18 PM

LOL could you be more obvious that you've never been a panhellenic sorority member. No such thing as a 'cut session' except in your weird sorority fantasy. Honestly the troll cap on this thread is over the top.

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by: Huh?Jul 27, 2025 10:46:48 AM

If your chapter doesn't have a discussion about the girls they've met, you are doing a disservice to everyone who goes through recruitment. Don't criticize someone else for your house's shortcomings.

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by: IYKYKJul 27, 2025 4:03:53 PM

LOL NPC sororities don't conduct anything called a 'cut session' babe, you're just another outsider pretending on greekrank, and doing it badly. IYKYK

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by: sure thingJul 27, 2025 4:07:31 PM

OMG tell us more about your sorority "cut sessions" please LOL

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by: too funnyJul 28, 2025 2:27:07 PM

It doesn't matter what you call them. They are cut sessions. Unless, of course, your house will take anyone they can get. Don't pretend to not know what she's talking about.

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by: CousinJul 29, 2025 7:17:03 PM

Nobody in a chapter here would give a rat's a-- about how somebody's cousin felt about anything. It's about whether they like a pnm and only about if she would be good for the sorority. That kind of stuff would not even be brought up in front of my chapter, we use a list of 5 things that we have to stick to for discussing and ranking pnm's, and somebody's cousin being done wrong over a boy is not on the list.

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by: Same thingJul 30, 2025 12:07:55 AM

Hmmm. Discussions and rankings, which have been mentioned, sound like a cut session to me. Your house might call it something else, but stop pretending you don't talk about PNMs and what they have to offer your chapter. How obtuse do you have to be to know they are one and the same? Are y'all even in a sorority? Doubtful.

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#5  by: Trolls   
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Don't feed the trolls like OP and 'cut session.'

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by: ThanksJul 29, 2025 12:08:59 PM

Tell us your house will take anyone without saying your house doesn't make cuts.

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#6  by: Real Real   
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So let's clarify, from a member of a sorority that is considered selective in recruitment: Sororities hold MEMBERSHIP SELECTION. We are looking for our new sisters. This is the most important thing we do all year. No one in a sorority refers to membership selection as a cut session, and I'm pretty sure that any chapter advisor here who heard it called that would shut it down fast and the members would be talked to, I know ours would. We are focused on finding the pnm's that best fit with our chapter, not searching for pnm's to cut.  I promise that any discussions of pnm's are positive by far and centered on finding the good qualities in each, not about fault-finding or negative judgements.  There are always so many great pnm's. With over 1700 this year, does it make any sense to take an attitude of 'well who are we going to cut'? No! We don't have time for than approach or the negativity.  It's very much the opposite. 

Panhellenic decides the number of pnm's each chapter can invite back.  This is calculated and readjusted throughout the week for each round. Chapters don't submit a cut list, we submit a ranked list of the pnm's, and the pnm's that are ranked above whatever our assigned cutoff number is are the ones who are invited back. The chapter members don't even know what our final submitted ranked list looks like, and don't know the number of pnm's that we are allowed back, only our recruitment committee sees it. So we aren't making cut decisions, just discussing, voting, ranking etc; every sorority has their own system. 

When you are not invited back it stings, but please understand that it's not personal. You were not judged to be unworthy, there's nothing wrong with you, we liked you fine, but this is about numbers. If you feel that you really connected with some members, then you did, and they really wanted you back, so if you get released from that house, know that the actives you talked to are VERY upset also. That sting hits us too and emotions run strong when members' favorite girls don't come back. But we all have to smile and keep going and so do you. It's a numbers game, that's all.

We do not ever see your ranks of the sororities at any round so our membership selection is not influenced by your ranks of us.

The chapters' pnm ranks for Philanthropy will be completed before you come to campus based on grades, resume, video, social media, and opinions from any members who happen to know you. Our ranks will be submitted and the cutoff numbers will be calculated by panhellenic based on the final number of pnm's showing up to orientation.

It's going to be okay, stay positive and keep an open mind. You got this!

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by: Oh, pleaseJul 30, 2025 12:51:21 PM

Thanks for the PR release, but if you aren't asked back it is indeed personal. You said it yourself, the PNMs going through recruitment are ranked and there are any number of reasons a PNM doesn't wind up at the top -- most of them personal: mediocre grades, low ACTs, odd conversations, unrelatable circumstances. If they really wanted you back, you would be back. There are all kinds of people on this site going apoplectic over the word "cut." How stupid, because that's exactly what we do. You call it "ranking," but cutting is what it is. So let's be honest and save a few broken hearts. Recruitment is extremely competitive. Don't set your sites too high or, statistics show, you are sure to be disappointed. And let's stop insulting people who dare to talk about exactly what happens, because transparency is important. Stop lying to PNMs.

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by: Nice tryJul 30, 2025 1:08:17 PM

OMG, how stupid do you think PNMs are? You state that We are focused on finding the pnm's that best fit with our chapter, not searching for pnm's to cut. A chimp knows that's exactly the same thing. duh! and you said yourself that people who happen to know a PNM chime in to help determine the rankings. Just give it a rest. These sessions are difficult for everyone concerned, but don't pretend nothing negative is ever said. Maybe leave this site to sorority members and PNMs; if you are paid to communicate Panhell's rosy and biased viewpoint, go somewhere else.

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#7  by: Haters   
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The bitter, jealous, anti-sorority trolls are coming out of their caves like they do this time every year. Easy to spot them as middle aged women hanging onto years of resentment, and angry mammas whose daughters' rush didn't go like they wanted. They will say anything to try to get their negativity across and they desperately want the last word. Let them have it, it's all they've got to go with their hate.

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