why doesn't alpha phi require study hours

That's pretty twisted logic. After you flunk out it kind of doesn't matter what your motivation was, does it?

Social events are very different from studying and attending chapter. If you opt to be in a sorority, the last two shouldn't be an option, but a requirement.

Can't deny it causes problems and morale problems with some girls, no one likes being told what to do

Not all houses have mandatory study hours. My house and my freshman roommates house, didn't make study hours mandatory, just if you attended, you got more points (I nor my roommate are Aphis).

If you don't like being told what to do, you shouldn't join a sorority. You would be a perfect candidates for being a GDI -with an emphasis on the "Independent." I mean, really, being in a sorority comes with obligations and responsibilities. If you don't want to study and make grades, attend chapter or participate in chapter events, don't join.

Lmao.. I guarantee my GPA is higher than yours I'm top of my class. I'm also happy to go to events but I do understand that too much pressure is put on girls to attend events when they might have other obligations at times. Study hours shouldn't even be considered in this, it's pretty easy to sign your hours away as you should be studying in the first place. But some sorority's rules are absolutely too tight and it absolutely causes issues. Just the mentality of saying "mandatory" has an effect on members point of view, I've seen it and you've seen it. From what I've seen Alpha Phi's are pretty involved, I can almost guarantee showing up because you want to as opposed to having to makes a decent difference. If any APhi's want to chime in feel free, I think their system is pretty interesting and I'm curious if it works or if people take advantage ?

You're so funny. Clearly it doesn't work because their most recent pledge class had a 2.9 gpa, their sisterhood sux and their retention is embarrassingly awful. But, hey, you just keep defending them, OK? Because, after all, no one should ever have to do anything they don't want to do.

Their sisterhood is fab but thx

Okay you keep trying to convince us that alpha phi. You guys are STILL obsessing over this website?! Haven't you guys done enough damage already lol

chapter is mandatory..

They want pretty popular social girls, They've made that quite obvious, not sure why you'd think they're unsure about that

But they can't come close to competing with the other pretty, popular, social houses so they need to come up with something else. Part of their problem with retention is not only grades but girls that thought this house was on par with the other pretty, popular, social houses but they quickly learn how cliquey it is-most of those other social houses are fun and the girls all get along and love going out together. No one has ever been able to put their finger on what aphi's problem is with attracting and hanging on to those girls. Maybe theyre not attracting girls with all 3 of those qualities, plus the advantage of grades so the girls are one of the three as opposed to all three-but maybe if they put more emphasis on grades it would make a difference, years ago the 'dumb, pretty girl' might've been appealing to some girls that filled this house but can't think of ANY girls thinking the dumb, pretty thing is acceptable, thus their recent struggle.

Their standard is pretty, fun, genuine girls. Trolls on GR can hate em all they want but they're happy. Study hours would probably help enough to move them up the .2 in GPA difference that just makes them oh so god awful 🙄

What?? I suppose to an extent, but what is said over and over is retention, grades and sisterhood. For the handful of girls that are known as pretty, fun and social, it's disappointing for the ones that went in looking for sisterhood, achievement and to be part of greek life..
Supposedly, years ago when they dropped the mandatory study hours, it was because their retention had dropped so dramatically. For a long standing house on this campus, retention dropped and it's too bad they so quickly dropped mandatory requirements such as study hours and service hours because this house has never been able to regain it's popularity or respect since then. It could very well have been a few bad pledge classes but dropping standards and expectations will never make a house strong again. Until they do that and choose quality over quantity, they will continue to struggle and have girls dropping and bitter against all sororities because they think that's how all houses are.

LOL you give yourself away as a troll who doesn't go here when you attempt to suggest that anon behaviour on GR has any effect on real life. It's ok, when you suggested APhi's weren't genuine that was suspicion enough to know you've never met any. Try elsewhere troll

OMG girl, learn to speak properly! THIS is the problem, lolololiol, remember the meeting when the aphi used the wrong words, repeatedly! keep your girls off the boards if this is how they act, lol but honestly, they are a top tier hosue with top grades and and undying sisterhood!

Nothing is even spelt wrong ... Moron

^You're trying to be funny, right? Because in this country "spelt" is not a word.

How stupid are you, this is the 3rd time I've seen someone try to argue with an Aphi when the Aphi was right. Do you not realize that gives them more credibility?

What? That doesn't even make sense? And obviously you read through this entire thread and tried to distract from the last post here where an aphi flat out lied about being able to have posts removed. Seriously, get a life already. Worse grades, worst retention, flat out lying on an 'anonymous' website, demanding girls flood that same website with your name so people 'know you', rumors of poor sisterhood and being to cliquey within your own house in addition to having one of the houses in the absolute worst condition and you are still going to pull these threads up?

YOU CANNOT PAY TO HAVE A THREAD REMOVED. What a moron. All anyone has to do to see you're lying is click on "report" on this very thread and they could see that. Idiot

Moron? Idiot? So now in addition to that other long list of 'problems' we can add a lack of vocabulary, maturity and class.

AXO is like Macy's, never Neiman hahahaha so average and you know it

Aphi does that same thing

Then that can only mean APhi rushes stupid girls then. Because my house does that too and we're always top five in grades. SO.

Heard something similar but it's supposed to be quiet for now. Nationals is expecting this chapter to shape up after their retention and grade problems (not to mention the poor leadership in encouraging actives to be on these boards). The concern is now that if pnm's know about mandatory study hours etc it will make it more difficult than ever to attract quality girls. Seems like a last ditch effort-grades, retention, poor sisterhood and not even holding consistent weekly chapter meetings with hopes that new leadership might turn things around but unfortunately seeing the cattiness that came out on these boards-no clue what they are going to do tbh. They will still attract the decent looking girl that gets cut from other houses and just wants to wear letters, any letters. Sadly that's where the retention issue then comes in to play. They need to start attracting girls outside of their little cliques that don't get invited back to any other houses(or houses they feel are below them)

"...if pnm's know about mandatory study hours etc it will make it more difficult than ever to attract quality girls. Well, that doesn't make sense. Wouldn't mandatory study hours help attract quality girls? I mean, grades are a huge part of the problem with Alpha Phi, leading to retention and other issues. Seems to me if they make an effort to do something about study hours that will help.

Nothing is more irritating than when people come on here and lie about sororities they know nothing about. There will NOT be enforceable study hours, this is against all of nationals policies. Period. There's no talk about enforceable study hours preventing quality girls from joining, because for one, that's not happening and two, that makes no sense whatsoever. It's sad how much effort you're willing to put in to tear down a house that supposedly is no competition to anyone.

It's a shame its national won't be instituting and enforcing mandatory study hours. It might just be this chapter's only hope.

Alpha Phi does not and will not have study hours, that was a rumour created by someone who was clearly threatened. Alpha Phi is the only house without enforceable study hours (although some houses only make them enforceable if you're on academic probation, ie when your grades are slipping) and they are also the only house that doesn't fine when you miss an event. There are no fines in APhi ever, their mentality is that you should attend events because you want to, not because you're forced to. This isn't happening and therefore hasn't affected grades, their GPA has been steady at around .2-.3 below the top sorority's GPA for many years. .

Lol WELL my point was that only someone who is threatened would make up a story to try to discourage pnms to go Aphi, wasn't by any means trying to suggest they're a house that's super threatening but judging by the very emotional 500 word essay you just wrote about them - I would have to say YOU are one of those people!

"Alpha Phi does not and will not have study hours, that was a rumour created by someone who was clearly threatened." Never even said a house was threatened, just you. Keep reaching though. Re-read my posts and tell me again I sound "uneducated," how laughable!

LMAO. Did you even think before you posted that? At first you tried to sound like an Alpha Phi knowing all these supposed details and you end the comment by hating on them. Good thinking. PS to pnms disregard anything this liar says, it's against national Aphi policy