bama vs. ole miss
by: Theta
Both Bama Theta and Ole Miss Theta had to deal with the bottom tier cr@p talk that went on for years around here. But over at Bama a lot of people would admit that there's no longer some general Theta is bottom consensus, some say they've risen in ranks, etc. But here at Ole Miss things just got harder and harder for them.
Did it just come down to the Ole Miss chapter not making quota that "sealed the deal" on the rep?
What makes a house that is bottom improve? What makes a house that is bottom fold?
#1 by: .
Nationals doesn’t close houses because they’re bottom tier; they close them because they’re not financially self-sustaining. Theta is toward the bottom tier at both Ole Miss and Bama, but at Bama they have as many members as most of the other sororities (and more than some). At Ole Miss they had a hundred fewer members than the next smallest house, and two hundred fewer than the biggest. That wasn’t enough.
Commentby: thetaNov 5, 2018 8:24:49 PM
I’d guess that that was a major factor in the closure—Theta HQ knew they were going to have to rebuild the house soon if they wanted to be competitive, but they didn’t want to invest that kind of money in a chapter that wasn’t competing. You don’t want to spend those millions with no guarantee that the chapter won’t just fold in five years anyway.
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by: Chapter housesNov 5, 2018 8:48:37 PM
Y'all don't seem to understand that a sorority's nationals doesn't build or finance chapter houses. The money for a chapter's house comes from the chapter. Nationals will advise a chapter and help them negotiate with the school for land and help the chapter get a bank loan if the chapter can fundraise to get a downpayment of 20% of the total cost, and if the chapter also shows that it can sustain the cost of the mortgage which is the other 80% through member dues and housing fees. So two things have to happen for a new house or an expansion: enough members to generate the money to pay the monthly note and keep the house running, and enough alumnae willing to donate to the chapter in the first place. If one of these is missing then a new or expanded house is a no-go. No sorority nationals is rolling in billions of dollars to go around building chapter houses.
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by: WellNov 5, 2018 4:23:04 PM
Gphi was definitely bottom for years at bama until they got their new house. Now depending on who you ask it’s dz or theta. Number of chapters has less to do with it than the pnm mindset there. Generally at bama PNMs will accept a bid and stick it out whereas here there’s definitely a bid acceptance issue.
Just a sad situation all around really. I can’t imagine a chapter with over 200 members wasn’t financially viable, regardless of the size of the other chapters. Seems more like their nationals was just fed up with having to “babysit” so to speak.
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#3 by: Bama
The real-real reason Bama theta was made unanimously Bottom for so long was because they didn’t join the machine. They’ve always marched to the beat of their own drum and got put down for it. Now people at Alabama admit they’re not bad, and they’re getting a new house to finally bring the experience up to the rest of the chapters. The bullying and size issues are legitimate, but they were facing different sets of challenges based on the campus culture.
#4 by: Greekgirl
I was wondering why Theta had such a hard time at Ole Miss. An older alum said that things were great until the 90s when Theta extended a bid to an African-American PNM and then actively started integrating their chapter. My guess would be it is something similar at Bama.
by: Kind ofNov 6, 2018 7:28:06 AM
Same situation at bama, not with theta though. Gphi integrated around 2000 and tanked. Theta didn’t integrate until 2013 when most of the other chapters did.
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by: ..Nov 5, 2018 1:51:34 PM
A brand new house is what really pulled Bama Theta from the place Ole Miss Theta was at. If theta's nationals had helped them in the same way they helped Bama Theta, Ole Miss Theta would've been able to bring themselves up to quota. Sad, but its the bells and the whistles that attract PNMs at Ole Miss.
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