variable quota to end !!?
by: ya'll
Well, we all knew variable was a temporary thing to even the playing field a bit, but according to panhellenic it wasn't suppose to run a full term (4 years) and could end as soon as next year!
Variable quota was set up to create more diversity, not make each house even or "middle tier". All houses here are fairly equal compared to other schools where there is a significant difference between tiers. Basically, in the past you had legacies and the same girls from the same houses go to the same top tiers. The objective was to put a tight restriction on the top houses so they can no longer play favorites (legacies and same high schools) and thinking since the houses were restricted, they would pick the best girls.... but it didn't quite work out. Top houses are just more strict with their favorites since they can barely fill their legacies, and the top houses are even less diverse.
We may not have the best Greek system, but we have the hardest. If you are a non-legacy and didn't go to one of these popular high schools that fill top houses, your chances of a top house is impossible.
With OOS enrollment dropping and top houses complaining, it will soon be ended
#1 by: mel
honestly it's more political then that. top tiers knew the point was to create diversity, they hated the quotas, so they picked girls that are even less diverse - legacy first, and if they have room a few from the same area jackson/memphis.
think top houses played this game for the past 2 years to show that it's making their houses less diverse so they get rid of the quotas sooner then later
Comment#2 by: Variable Quota
Y'all are making this more complicated than it was. The idea of variable quota was to even the numbers out. Each sorority still had control over who they wanted to recruit. Yes it did make the cuts for the the more popular sororitys more brutal, but everyone understood going into variable quota that would be a result. The population that was affected most is the Mississippi/Memphis/legacy private school girls who were sure they would be an XYZ but the reduced numbers forced them to consider another, more diverse option. Some of those girls have probably realized that being in a more diverse sorority has enhanced their college experience, and some are probably still unhappy they aren't with their high school friends. Once the sororities have achieved equal numbers than variable quota would no longer be necessary. So instead of bashing each other we should be hoping each sorority has a successful recruitment so variable quota can be eliminated.
by: WowOct 4, 2017 5:29:16 AM
Ever considered that the Miss/Memphis/legacy group who thinks it's their "right" to be in ddd kd or chip would be if those groups wanted them? Since they're so familiar to the top tier they would be grabbed up right away. Sorry to not feel sympathy for you mom.
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by: @WowOct 4, 2017 12:50:45 PM
You must not have read the post well enough. I don't think the comment was saying Mississippi girls think they have a 'right' to certain sororities - but that they were the most affected by the variable quota. Your comment seems kind of angry and honestly doesn't even make sense. AND I think you are probably the 'Mom' in this conversation.
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by: ??Oct 4, 2017 6:08:03 AM
Yeah, just what is meant by DIVERSITY? We were the first PC to have variable quota and we were told it was to grow new houses and make huge houses smaller. Has Panhel changed their MINDS?
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by: Just the MomsOct 5, 2017 1:05:19 PM
No, Panhellenic did not change their minds. This thread is just the Moms talking and they have no idea what they are talking about.
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#4 by: point
I thought whole point of VQ was to bring house totals closer together so we could bring more sororities on to campus and eventually get away from the 100+ member pledge classes- sad thing is this site makes us all look so petty and toxic that what sorority would even want to come here. Don't think VQ will end until the goal of reducing all pledge classes (not just top tier) is achieved.
by: @^Oct 4, 2017 1:49:54 PM
No, they do not HAVE to take OOS now. They simply have to take LESS. Just means that many more legacy and connected girls will be released by those houses and will have to branch out.
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by: The factsOct 4, 2017 2:02:51 PM
MOMS, PLEASE PAY ATTENTION: The top tiers are not required to take more OOS students. They had OOS students before variable quota and they still take OOS students but those students tend to come with strong Ole Miss connections. Variable Quota was strictly to even the numbers between the sororitys. Once the numbers even out Variable Quota will no longer be necessary. As far as diversity, the middle/lower tiered sororitys have always been more diverse and variable quota did not change that.
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#6 by: Who-dat!
Variable Quota HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TIERS or diversity! It has everything to do with evening out chapter size so ALL chapters are close to equal in size.
Yes, some chapters with higher return rates will cut more and chapters with low rates will cut less, but it has nothing to do with hometowns, high schools or legacies.
Please educate yourself on NPC policies and regulations.
by: lolOct 5, 2017 9:32:54 AM
variable quota works to even out numbers. kd ddd xo have the highest retention rate, therefore they have the lowest quota because there's a better chance their pledges will stay all 4 years. alpha phi, adpi, theta have a high VQ because its more common for girls in those sororities to drop, or pledge as sophomores. the rest are in between.
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by: ^@lolOct 5, 2017 1:22:41 PM
No, VQ is not about retention rate. VQ is based on return rates, new member class sizes, and total chapter sizes. VQ exists to bring equity to chapter sizes and attempt to place as many PNM's as possible. The houses with large legacy numbers and connections have had higher return rates for years, and newer chapters without the strong alumnae chapter base have not been able to catch up. RFM was not enough to even out the gap, so VQ was needed. When all houses are on par with membership size and are recruiting well, the retention part of not wanting to be in a house simply because of its letters will handle itself.
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#7 by: VQ Fan
This thread is hilarious. It is so obvious that all those legacy moms out there are FREAKED OUT about the new and modern world of sorority recruitment. They fight it as if their lives are on the line. I think the wonder of VQ is that chapters are now free to release more of their horrible legacies that have been forced on them in the past. Now, if only VQ could do something about those moms.
#8 by: .
Variable quota will naturally end on its own. As chapters become closer in size, the quotas will get closer in size until they're all about the same, which is when variable quota will naturally phase itself out. There was still such a gap in quotas that there's no way that it's close to being done.
by: OMOct 5, 2017 11:54:35 AM
Agree. And if OM brings on new chapters over the next few years - which it will need to given how many girls go through recruitment - they will need to keep it to help those chapters grow and thrive.
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#9 by: Wow #2
So what you are saying is that if the "top tier" sorority that you think you were destined to be a member of took 130 new members, you wouldve received a bit, but since they only took 110, you were "forced" to accept a bid to another house? What makes you think you would have been one of those 20 girls? How about focusing on the fact that your current house wanted you enough to include you on their first list? #ungrateful
by: Stop alreadyOct 5, 2017 2:01:03 PM
#10 by: To the Moms
Dear Moms: Could you please stop discussing Variable Quota? It's clear most of you don't understand it. The important thing to remember is that the actual Actives on the Ole Miss campus actually do understand why we have Variable Quota, why it was necessary and how it will benefit the future health of Panhellenic Greek Life.
by: No Baby MommaOct 5, 2017 2:51:21 PM
I'm not a mom, nor am I an active in a sorority at Ole Miss, but I have struggled to understand Variable Quota. I am considering Ole Miss and have asked my friends who are actives and not just new members and they can't explain it either. I've also tried to do some research on my own and can't find anything. Can someone explain it in non Panhellenic language, please? Thanks.
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by: SureOct 5, 2017 3:23:21 PM
I doubt you are a future PNM - but whatever. Here's as simple an explanation as I can possible give you. For several years the numbers for active sorority memberships was off balanced - some had quite a few more members than others. Were those bigger sororities the more popular established sororitys? Yes. This off balanced membership would make it difficult for newer or struggling sororitys to survive. Variable Quota was established to give the newer and struggling sororitys a chance AND to reduce the membership numbers of ALL sororities to manageable sizes. Quotas are established by considering the size of each sorority at the beginning of recruitment and the number of PNMs who complete the recruitment process. The purpose of Variable Quota is too bring the sororities within reasonably equal workable numbers. This is something every Active on campus is easily able to understand.
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by: What?Oct 3, 2017 6:50:14 PM
Create diversity? Baloney, variable quota was to create more even numbers among the sororities.
The top sororitys are smart enough to get the pledge class they want.
Having 11 fairly equal sororitys is great for Ole Miss Greek Life. Let me rephrase that so top tier moms don't have heart attacks.... having 7 fairly equal sororitys and 3 top tiers..... is good for Greek Life.
The top houses have lots of OOS girls in them, and as we are always told, are tops bc of tradition and connections. Stop being selfish and give the other sororities a chance.
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