Is Theta Upper Mid?
by: Conversation
If you compare Theta to the other upper mids ΔΔΔ & ΠΒΦ they come out on top in very few categories. Realistically the most important categories are
• Diversity (ΚΑΘ > ΔΔΔ > ΠΒΦ)
• Looks (ΔΔΔ > / = ΠΒΦ > ΚΑΘ)
• Popularity (ΔΔΔ > ΠΒΦ > ΚΑΘ)
• Involvement (ΚΑΘ > ΔΔΔ = ΠΒΦ)
• Having a house (ΔΔΔ = ΠΒΦ = ΚΑΘ)
• Social Life (ΠΒΦ > ΔΔΔ > ΚΑΘ)
• Relations (ΔΔΔ = ΠΒΦ > ΚΑΘ)
• Retention (ΠΒΦ > ΚΑΘ > ΔΔΔ)
• Comp Wins (ΠΒΦ > ΚΑΘ > ΔΔΔ)
• Srat Relations (ΔΔΔ = ΠΒΦ > ΚΑΘ)
The other categories hold less weight and are the categories in which they thrive. They do have some categories in which they’re stronger than other upper mids but this isn’t uncommon. TKE has a better rep than ΦΔΘ. ΔΥ has better looks than top frats. TKE has more comp wins than other upper mids. They aren’t a strong fighter.
When compared to true mid, if they were the strongest fighter and beat out every component they’d be upper mid (Like if we compared ΔΥ to ΔΣΦ) but they are not.
• Diversity (ΧΩ > ΚΑΘ > ΑΞΔ)
• Looks (ΑΞΔ > ΚΑΘ > ΧΩ)
• Popularity (ΑΞΔ > ΚΑΘ > ΧΩ)
• Involvement (ΚΑΘ > ΧΩ = ΑΞΔ)
• Having a house (ΚΑΘ = ΧΩ = ΑΞΔ)
• Social Life (ΑΞΔ > ΚΑΘ > ΧΩ)
• Relations (ΑΞΔ > ΚΑΘ > ΧΩ)
• Retention (ΧΩ > ΑΞΔ > ΚΑΘ)
• Comp Wins (ΧΩ > ΚΑΘ > ΑΞΔ)
• Srat Relations (ΑΞΔ > ΧΩ = ΚΑΘ)
When prompted no one has given real reasons as to why Theta is more comparable to TriDelta & PiPhi versus Chi O and AXiD. They have the same relations, personalities, looks as these and are generally seen as them.
You guys have bumped discussion posts but not all. Only the ones in their favor don’t show our true discussion and are unbiased.
Kappa Alpha Theta does not have the looks, relations, popularity (which is what ultimately sets apart upper mid from true mid) they have reputation and involvement.
Kappa Alpha Theta is most certainly not an upper mid sorority.
#1 by: Conversation
In Reality:
Top Tier:
ΚΔ - Kappa Delta
ZTA - Zeta Tau Alpha
ΑΔΠ - Alpha Delta Pi
Upper Mid Tier:
ΔΔΔ - Delta Delta Delta
ΠΒΦ - Pi Beta Phi
True Mid Tier:
ΚΑΘ - Kappa Alpha Theta
ΧΩ - Chi Omega
ΑΞΔ - Alpha Xi Delta
Lower Mid Tier:
ΑΕΦ - Alpha Epsilon Phi
ΚΚΓ - Kappa Kappa Gamma
Bottom Tier:
ΔΖ - Delta Zeta
ΓΦΒ - Gamma Phi Beta
Comment#2 by: Theta
There’s always a weaker chapter in every tier. KD & ZTA are stronger, ADPi is weaker but they still belong in the top tier. Tridelt & Piphi are stronger and Theta is weaker but they still belong in the upper mid tier.
No discussion post has ever agreed to move Theta down. We all agreed that Theta has to improve their frat relations. They have good frat relations and great sorority relations. Every chapter has improvements to be made.
Upper Mid Sorority Comparison
ΔΔΔ
• strengths-looks. popularity, relations, diversity, amazing house
• weaknesses-reputation, leadership, comp wins, membership
• hoco date-du
ΠΒΦ
• strengths-looks, popularity, relations, leadership, comp wins, membership
• weaknesses-diversity, reputation, house is cute but not impressive
• hoco date-sig chi
KΑΘ
• strengths-looks, diversity, reputation, leadership, comp wins, membership, won green cup & won ucf homecoming queen, amazing house
• weaknesses-popularity, relations
• hoco date-dsig
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• Upper Mid: ΔΔΔ, ΠΒΦ, ΚΑΘ
Popularity: ΔΔΔ > ΠΒΦ > ΚΑΘ
Frat Relations: ΔΔΔ = ΠΒΦ > ΚΑΘ
Srat Relations: ΠΒΦ > ΚΑΘ = ΔΔΔ
Ιnvolvement: ΚΑΘ > ΠΒΦ > ΔΔΔ
Reputation: ΚΑΘ > ΔΔΔ = ΠΒΦ
Diversity: ΚΑΘ > ΔΔΔ > ΠΒΦ
Comp Wins: ΠΒΦ > ΚΑΘ > ΔΔΔ
Philo Event: ΔΔΔ = ΠΒΦ = ΚΑΘ
Pan Leadership: ΠΒΦ = ΚΑΘ > ΔΔΔ
Retention: ΠΒΦ > ΚΑΘ > ΔΔΔ
Looks: ΔΔΔ = ΠΒΦ > ΚΑΘ
Good Standing: KΑΘ > ΠΒΦ > ΔΔΔ
by: yesMar 21, 2023 11:35:27 AM
True Mids always have great involvement and reputation. What sets true mids apart from upper mid is looks, relations and popularity. If you read this post. It doesn’t deny that they have great rep and involvement.
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by: compareMar 21, 2023 11:43:34 AM
(you all chose to take out social life, personality, house)
tgeta is more comparable to tridelt & piphi than chio & axid
Popularity: ΔΔΔ > ΚΑΘ
Frat Relations: ΔΔΔ > ΚΑΘ
Srat Relations: ΔΔΔ = ΚΑΘ
Ιnvolvement: ΚΑΘ > ΔΔΔ
Reputation: ΚΑΘ > ΔΔΔ
Diversity: ΚΑΘ > ΔΔΔ
Comp Wins: ΚΑΘ > ΔΔΔ
Philo Event: ΔΔΔ = ΚΑΘ
Pan Leadership: ΚΑΘ > ΔΔΔ
Retention: ΚΑΘ > ΔΔΔ
Looks: ΔΔΔ > ΚΑΘ
Good Standing: KΑΘ > ΔΔΔ
Popularity: ΠΒΦ > ΚΑΘ
Frat Relations: ΠΒΦ > ΚΑΘ
Srat Relations: ΠΒΦ > ΚΑΘ
Ιnvolvement: ΚΑΘ > ΠΒΦ
Reputation: ΚΑΘ > ΠΒΦ
Diversity: ΚΑΘ > ΠΒΦ
Comp Wins: ΠΒΦ > ΚΑΘ
Philo Event: ΠΒΦ = ΚΑΘ
Pan Leadership: ΠΒΦ = ΚΑΘ
Retention: ΠΒΦ > ΚΑΘ
Looks: ΠΒΦ > ΚΑΘ
Good Standing: KΑΘ > ΠΒΦ
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by: Tiers Mar 21, 2023 11:47:38 AM
Tier Considerations:
Campus relevance, strong membership & retention, new member class, looks, personality, social life, philanthropy events, srat & frat relations, Greek involvement, diversity, remaining in good standing with ofsl, house/no house.
Tiers-
You don’t get to say what is more important. DU has better looking guys than top tiers and they are upper mid. Every chapter has pros/cons
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by: ^Mar 21, 2023 11:50:04 AM
social life, personality & house all go to ddd & pi phi as well.
pi phi has their own tent and always at parties.
trident always at parties.
theta are known to be boring
while pi phi are fun
and trident are fun and snobby
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#5 by: No
If theta is upper mid so is FIJI & TKE. They have better involvement than DU and KSig bc they participate with everyone and everything not just tops.
THETA IS NOT UPPER MID. They’ve kept their self rank going for years but now that they’ve annoyed tf out of everyone with all their hate, comments always about them, 500 posts a day and consnstly bumping hate. We’re starting to fight back.
by: Honestly Mar 21, 2023 12:21:06 PM
Theta has the looks, the rep, and has relations with zbt and delta sig and more great qualities. The reason this keeps coming up is because some girls HATE Theta and want to see them drop.
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by: ^Mar 21, 2023 12:40:48 PM
#8 by: truth
theta has looks, great rep, personality, diversity, relations, retention, leadership, wins.
no they aren’t as popular (just like zbt aren’t as popular as du) all chapters are different but they are an amazing upper mid chapter.
stop riding thetas every day. they work hard.
srat closest frat relations
ΠΒΦ - ΣΧ, ΚΣ (top, upper mid)
ΔΔΔ - ΔΥ, ΚΣ (upper mid)
ΚΑΘ - ΖΒΤ, ΔΣΦ (upper mid, mid)
piphi paired with sig for hoco. does that make them higher than tridelta?
#9 by: hate
“They’ve kept their self rank going for years but now that they’ve annoyed tf out of everyone with all their hate, comments always about them, 500 posts a day and consnstly bumping hate. We’re starting to fight back.“
what hate are you talking about? most of the hate is targeting theta.
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by: lolMar 21, 2023 12:15:58 PM
Popularity: ΔΔΔ > ΚΑΘ
Frat Relations: ΔΔΔ > ΚΑΘ
Srat Relations: ΔΔΔ = ΚΑΘ
Ιnvolvement: ΚΑΘ > ΔΔΔ
Reputation: ΚΑΘ > ΔΔΔ
Diversity: ΚΑΘ > ΔΔΔ
Comp Wins: ΚΑΘ > ΔΔΔ
Philo Event: ΔΔΔ = ΚΑΘ
Pan Leadership: ΚΑΘ > ΔΔΔ
Retention: ΚΑΘ > ΔΔΔ
Looks: ΔΔΔ > ΚΑΘ
Good Standing: KΑΘ > ΔΔΔ
ΔΔΔ 3
ΚΑΘ 7
= 2
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