asa coming to campus

Wait, what? No one gets stuck with a sorority they don't want? What the eff are you talking about?

I know PLENTY of girls that got bids to their last choice. You sound extremely uninformed.

No one gets stuck with a sorority they do not want when they realize BEFORE THEY SIGN A PREF CARD they have total choice to walk away without a bid.

Women have total choice throughout the sorority recruitment process.

No sorority is forcing women to go through recruitment.

No sorority is holding women hostage and forcing them to sign pref cards or list houses they do not want.

No sorority is forcing women to accept any bid they receive.

Is that enough information for you?

James Madison University.

JMU is irrelevant. Next.

Indiana University. They are an unhoused chapter, but a very strong chapter that is completes very well with housed sororities, they make quota every formal recruitment and is much stronger that the other 2 unhoused sororities (DPhiE & TPA).

Bottom tier there and no respect. Comparing them to DPE is a joke since they're about ready to close. ASA will be the only unhoused chapter left then since TPA is getting a house. Hahahahahaha another weak sauce move

More than a few sororities are calling their colonies by new names, its the PC thing since some women demanded the change (liberals on coast campuses).

Besides Indiana ...

They have an upper-middle-tier chapter at Penn State. The sororities there have dorm floors instead of houses, but you can't deny that Greek life is huge there.

They also have a housed chapter at Delaware that's solid mid-tier. UDel has only had sororities since the early '70s, and the top houses don't really compare with the top houses at your typical big state school, but Greek life there is pretty similar to Penn State (i.e., big and wild).

NPC sororities have 26 diverse criteria in deciding when and where to apply for a colony chapter. ANY of the 26 NPC groups is welcome to apply for "open expansion" campus slots. Alpha Sigma Alpha took their opportunity to apply here, our campus accepted their application to present, they presented and were accepted to colonize. Nothing untoward or illegal occurred in having ASA fill our empty sorority slot. Why should UA continue to experience unmanageably large formal recruitment new member classes? Alpha Sigs WANT to be here. They bring over 115 years of sorority expertise to the job of making their UA chapter what it should and will be. Five years of hard work is the absolute minimum norm for an NPC chapter to become what it should be on ANY campus for ANY group. Time, love and tenderness in all things makes a better campus and student life experience. Give your new ASA chapter their earned chance to live and grow.

Oh yeah this was totally written by a man. Hahahahahahaha same crazy elderly ASA alum who is embarrassing herself. So easy to google who you are it isn't even funny, only tragic.

Bottom tier there and no respect. DPE is a joke since they're about ready to close which will firmly cement ASA as the very bottom chapter because ASA will be the only unhoused chapter left since TPA is getting a house. Hahahahahaha another weak sauce move.

They're only doing fine there right now because up until the past year or so, Indiana participated in "bed rush" meaning they only gave out bids for the amount of spaces open in the house. Everyone was required to live in the house. So with 2000 PNMs rushing, and each sorority taking a 50-70 pledge class, there were TONS of leftover solid pnms that the unhoused sororities could pick up.

Up until recent years Indiana had the most competitive rush in the country. The unhouses sororities, while bottom tier, were never short of pnms to give bids to.

But other than that, I wouldn't call a bottom tier sorority "doing fine".

Every list has a top and a bottom, unless you list sideways. In that case, it's a left side and a right side. All NPC houses are right on top, and no group is left at the bottom. We pull together and stand up against those who mean well.

it wasn't NPC that extend an invitation to ASA, it was the college PC & they were arm-twisted to do so. the actives are pretty upset. & it's obvious most of the posts here are coming from the adults involved in getting ASA to Arizona. Yeah. Sad!

You make a very good point. I would love to see what the sororitys write in response to your comment.

Give it a few years and they'll be able to buy a house. The frats here get kicked off so fast.

The stuck part is where they keep appearing over and over again on your invites when you have no interest in them and rate them as your bottom but they have such low return rates they have to invite everyone back. You're stuck with them and a sorority you want at pref. The weak chapter artificially reduces quota when almost no one is going to accept a bid.

Quota is not artificially low simply because a women doesn't list a weaker house on her pref card/mraba. Quota is determined by the number of women ATTENDING any pref party. If a woman decides not to list any house (even tho she had a top house and a bottom house) quota will already have been determined. Not many women who attend two pref parties refuse to list at least one house on a mraba.

If a woman with only one weak house attends her one pref party then refuses to sign her mraba, quota will already have been determined because she attended her party.

It defies reason that a high number of our students would have only a weak house left for prefs, and that they in turn would refuse to at the very least attend said pref party before completely refusing to sign a mraba. I give our women credit for being open-minded, fair and impartial when attending recruitment.

1) uf you don't list all the houses you went to pref parties at you are ineligible for quota additions. So yes you can be "stuck. "

2) I think what the poster meant who said about quota being artificially reduced is that even if a chapter fills quota on bid day, if a large number of those women drop out before initiating, that's a pledge class full of women who will not be Greek, whereas if the sorority they all dropped hadn't existed, they would have been distributed amongst the other sororities. (Holy run on sentence)

PNMs should be committed to assisting and working within the parameters of any of our sororities. By opting to be recruited, pnms should make themselves available to any group willing to offer them a home. PNMs really need to understand the sororities perform all recruitment choosing and bidding. Top houses are always going to have their pick of the pnms. Women desirous of their sorority membership bid need to adjust their sights and realize the potential in every home they visit, not just the top homes. Women need to graciously offer their accomplished selves to any home within the NPC sorority system, and there are thirteen Fall 2017 groups at Arizona vying for your skill sets.

Theta Xi are still a bunch of "GUMPS", even with a house.