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Pref round??????

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How does ranking work for pref does recruitment see your ranking?

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#1  by: Nope   
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No house sees your ranking ever. Pnm's ranks are never a consideration for them. Here's how it works: You rank your pref houses 1 and 2 and the houses rank all the pnm's on their bid list. The matching algorithm starts at the top of a house's ranked bid list and goes down in order trying to match with all pnm's who put them down as 1. If they hit quota during this process, that house is done matching. If they don't match to quota with all the pnm's who put them as 1, the algorithm continues and goes down the bid list again to try to match with the pnm's who put them as 2 to fill quota. Again, bid matching stops for that house when they reach quota. If you are high enough on your 1's bid list before they reach quota, you will get that bid. If you don't match with them, the algorithm will try to match you with your 2. If you are not high enough on your 2's bid list to match before they reach quota, then you will be a quota addition at either house. The algorithm will try to put you with your 1, but will also consider your place on both bid lists and the number of quota additions to be distributed. A quota addition is a just regular bid and no one knows these pnm's from any others. This system is how you are guaranteed a bid if you rank both your houses. If you only rank 1 of 2 (suiciding), and that house hits quota before they match with you, you are done and out of the process and will not get a bid. If you are only invited to 1 house for pref and you put them on your card, you will have a lovely restful night because you know where you are going on bid day.

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by: .Aug 12, 2022 3:29:54 PM

yes this is it. This is also why some will tell you not to single intentional pref (suicide) because if you write both houses you still have the chance to be a quota addition and be matched to your #1.

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by: great explanationAug 12, 2022 6:15:45 PM

What determines where you are on the bid list? I've heard its based on how much the house thinks you want them. Do most girls get their 1?

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by: ^Aug 12, 2022 6:34:33 PM

The bid list is ranked by how much the house wants each pnm. Statistically, pnm's are more likely to get their #1, but plenty get their 2nd.

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by: @great explanationAug 12, 2022 11:56:45 PM

Every chapter is going to order their bid list differently. Some chapters have a huge “to do” about ordering the bid list after Pref parties, and will be pushing for certain PNM’s to be on the top list based on Pref convos.

Other chapters will have legacy policies that where dictate certain groups of PNM’s sit on the list (national legacies, chapter legacies, in house cousins who aren’t technically legacies but are family, etc).

Other chapters will just take the # of votes from all week & order the bid list from highest vote to lowest.

Bottom line - it’s all out of your control!!

Remember, if you get invited to Pref, you are going on the bid list somewhere: they know you could become a member & they want you to be a member if the bid matching works out that way.


It can never hurt to tell your #1 they’re your top choice, but please please don’t tell your second pick that they aren’t your first choice. It’s just rude.

Around 85% of PNM’s get their first choice but that still means you have about a 1 in 6 chance of getting your 2nd choice.

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#2  by: Perf   
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Well written.

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#3  by: Yours truely   
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I will suicide for Aphi

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by: HaAug 12, 2022 4:42:17 PM

I will suicide for gphi

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#4  by: bump   
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bump

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#5  by: 🍋   
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Bumping for the truth of pref round

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by: Judy BAug 12, 2022 9:14:32 PM

Bump because similar Qs will be asked 87 times tomorrow like they are every year.

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#6  by: Old alum   
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Do not suicide!! I can’t tell you how many I know that regretted it because they didn’t get a bid anywhere

If you only have one left, that’s not suiciding

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by: ??Aug 12, 2022 8:11:41 PM

So many girls seem to think that they can drop out or suicide bid and then use COB as their fall back. Do not do this. Most houses WILL NOT extend a COB to you in the spring if you were dropped by them in formal recruitment. And, most houses don't even participate in COB and if they do, the quietly give out bids to girls that are good friends of Actives and not girls who dropped out. I hope Rho Chis are explaining this to PNMs.

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by: TrueAug 12, 2022 8:17:32 PM

My house does not COB and would never give a bid to a girl we dropped in the past. We have had sophomores go through formal recruitment for the second time after they dropped during freshman and if we dropped them when they went through the first time, they don't even make it past 1st round.

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#7  by: 😡   
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Stop burying this. This is actually good info.

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#8  by: it's time to...   
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bump

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#9  by: bad idea?   
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I heard someone recommend telling your 2nd choice house that they aren't going to be your first choice during pref. That way, they'll rank you lower on their list. So if you're on the cusp, you'll have a higher chance of getting your first choice. I feel like that would be taken the wrong way no matter what, no? Or if it was your house, would you rather know up front?

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by: Terrible advice!!Aug 12, 2022 11:47:05 PM

Please do not do this. You don’t know how bid matching is going to go and wouldn’t it be horribly awkward to show up to Bid Day at a house where you told the sisters they were not your first choice. It’s just rude, bad manners & really inconsiderate to act in this manner.


On the flip side, it’s totally OK to tell your #1 that they are your #1!

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by: Legacy bidAug 13, 2022 6:47:09 AM

Sure don’t tell them if you don’t care if you get either one of your prefs. I wanted non legacy sorority. I was a legacy bid (great grandmother plus tons more). Rho Chi told me correctly to tell legacy bid that while I loved the legacy, I definitely felt more comfortable at non legacy. This way they (legacy sorority) ranked me lower on their list and I actually was able to get my first choice, which wouldn’t have happened otherwise. Both were very in demand sororities so the legacy one appreciated that I told them that so they could have all the girls that truly wanted them. I guess I could have kept my mouth shut and been pretty unhappy bid day.

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by: legacyAug 13, 2022 7:31:18 AM

legacy preference is gone by the wayside so that strategy is no longer relevant.

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#10  by: bad idea?   
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Okay, thanks for that. That's pretty much what I was thinking too...but wanted to make sure :)

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by: YouAug 13, 2022 6:49:50 AM

Yes, you should tell your number 1 house that you want them.

As for your number 2 house, it’s ok to tell them you’re confused or not certain. That way they will know you’re not 100% certain and can put you lower on their bid list.

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