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Why do some houses cut more pnms?

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So why do some houses cut more than others? seems like they should all invite the same number so it works out.

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#1  by: Invites   
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It's based on the previous year's return rates. Houses that get a lot of high ranks by PNM's when they are voting have to cut more than houses that didn't get as many high ranks. This is done so it is fair to all houses. Hope this makes sense!

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by: PandaJul 10, 2022 8:09:01 AM

Chapters are told how many pnms they have to release, based on their reports from last year. The strongest chapters are forced to let go more pnms because this allows those girls to focus more on chapters that are more likely to give them a bid.
Before these changes, it was standard for the stronger chapters to keep more girls at their parties and the result was that girls would get through preference and not get a bid at all, because there were too many girls to make the list.
By releasing girls early, pnms can get to know and focus on the other chapters.
It is good to realize that you will not know the chapters that are interested in you until philanthropy- and that the average pnm will get invites to 6 to 8 chapters. After that, you hope to keep most of those chapters and give them each a really good chance of how you might fit with each one.
The name of the game is make it to pref. Don’t drop and give yourself a chance to get to know the chapters that are interested in you!!

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#2  by: yikes!   
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i feel like this is a dumb question lol. its a matter of selectivity and numbers. some houses have close to 100% return rates for round 1 — meaning nearly EVERY pnm going through recruitment will rank them high enough to want to keep them. naturally, more popular and strong recruiting houses can’t accept them all back or else they would have to have way too many parties (with more active members recruiting) and it’s not fair to other houses or even feasible for chapters to do. so they have to make harsher cuts. houses with (for example) a 75% return rate will still cut girls, just not as many as the stronger recruiting houses. it’s a numbers game. it may sound unfair but trust me if it wasn’t like this, then less popular houses would have WAY less members than popular houses.

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#3  by: RFM   
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In the days before RFM, it used to be that houses didn't have to really make hard cuts until right before pref. Before then they could ask back pretty much whoever they wanted and it was the pnm's who were required to eliminate houses from their schedules. Pnm's would pick up a stack of invitations before each round and then choose which ones to accept and which to drop. This worked out poorly for the pnm's, because the stronger recruiting sororities would ask back large numbers of pnm's just so they looked very popular, even though they never intended to bid a huge chunk of them. Meanwhile, those pnm's had no idea they were being carried through the week by those houses just for fluff, and they were dropping other houses left and right where they were actually wanted and had a good chance of getting a bid. Then the pref round would come and so many of these pnm's picked up empty envelopes with no invitations in them, having been finally cut by the houses that lead them on and being left without any other choices. And this was when Bama was still having three prefs instead of two. It was bad. RFM is so much better because it requires the stronger recruiting chapters to go ahead and make the cuts early that they are pretty much going to make anyway, leaving pnm's with houses that have a real chance with. RFM and Quota Additions have been a game changer for pnm's and so many more get bids now.

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by: umAug 15, 2023 10:38:08 PM

Bama went to 2 prefs about 4 or 5 years ago when i was there. RFM has been around waaay longer than that. This sounds like some old lady telling us what it was like in the 60s if thats even true.

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by: ^Aug 15, 2023 11:02:31 PM

RFM was instated in the early 2000's. Before RFM it was exactly as described. And there was something called 'cross-cutting' that happened when a girl's ranks on her pref card did not match to the sororities' ranks of her and so she did not get a bid at all because there was no such thing as quota plus. Quota was quota and that was it.

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#4  by: Honestly   
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If a house plans to drop you, it’s better for you if it happens early so that you know your options and have time to figure out where you will fit in. Getting dropped can be a blessing in disguise sometimes. Everyone should go in with an open mind even if you have some early favorites.

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#5  by: GR Moderator 2022   
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Bumping to clean board.

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