sorority presidential scholarship

I'm an engineering major and math and science come naturally to me. Not saying I don't have WTF moments in my classes, but for me it's nowhere near as hard as a marketing/English type degree would be.

The idea that any major is easy was created just to bash people who aren't in STEM.

Nobody should be offended by the FACT it’s harder to get good grades in engineering and health areas for students trying to get into Med school. Those courses purposefully weed out and fail students. Grading is more difficult. There are more study hours involved.

A 4.0 in elementary education is wonderful and no shame in that. But a 4.0 in Chemical Engineering is harder to achieve.

Nobody. And I mean nobody takes principals of thermodynamics as an elective for an easy “A”. Lol. Or organic chemistry 2, or engineering high level math.....


That isn’t meant to be mean. Not to insult the person in elementary education - a career that is very important.

Rather to acknowledge the hard work and effort of those who are in tough majors. \n\n\n\n\n

I agree with the rush comment.

But these are not a “dime a dozen”’. Very hard to get with very high test scores. Suggesting this hurts your credibility, despite the valid point you are making about recruitment.

Presidential scholarships are pretty common. All you need is a 3.5+ GPA and a 30+ (in-state) or 32+ (OOS) ACT. Since 66% of incoming freshmen have a 3.5+ GPA, and 40% have a 30+ ACT, lots of freshmen are "Presidential" and "UA" Scholars.

I don't doubt that 40% of students are 30 and above. 60% are OOS. Those tuition reductions are why they're here. Because they're plentiful here, doesn't mean they're easy to get. It just means the people here got them.
30 is top 6% nationally of those who tested.
32 is top 4%.
33 is top 2%.
34 and above is top 1%.
Hardly plentiful.

Rather than denigrate them as "common", we aught to celebrate them as special.

Common? While the University doesn't publish the number of Presidential Scholarships it awards to OOS students each year, a 2018 article in the Chicago Tribune put the number at around 300, in a freshman class of 7,500. This is from memory, as the article now sits behind a paywall.

@ common

The statement in the Chicago Tribune article that you misunderstood (not behind a paywall actually):

"Enter the University of Alabama. It awarded 203 full-tuition scholarships, out of 305 total, to freshman Illinoisans in 2017, defraying more than $100,000 in costs per student. The university has nearly quintupled over the past decade the amount of institutional, non-need-based aid it awards."

This is referring to 305 total freshman coming from ILLINOIS, not that 300 total Presidential Scholarships were awarded to the entire entering UA freshmen class.

Looking at the requirements for the Presidential Scholarship, and the percentage of freshmen who meet these requirements, there are obviously plenty of freshmen attending on this scholarship. A positive for sure, but not uncommon. Girls don't rush certain houses because they are Presidential scholars. The houses rush the girls. This scholarship does not make a girl so special that she will be rushed (or not cut) by the houses in the OP.

No one said it was easy to get a 30 -32+ ACT, just that it is not uncommon. 40% is common. At UA anyway.

Wrong. 66% (203) of the 2017 incoming freshman from Illinois (305) received a Presidential Scholarship. The Chicago Tribune article is "Growing brain drain: University of Alabama's gain in drawing Illinois students is a loss for Illinois." Google it. Actually read it.

It wasn’t “math” about the percentage of Scholarships among those attending from Illinois.

It was math about the overall percentage in the incoming freshman class.

You can be an arrogant a-s-ol- about reading something, but understanding seems to be a weak point for you! Hope you can figure out the word with the dashes - it so well describes you!

Why are smart students fleeing Illinois? Help us understand that. Northwestern doesn’t represent a decent value? The weather is awful? The University of Illinois has no personality? Loyola doesn’t offer much other than a Chicago with high tuition? Need to be brilliant and weird for the University of Chicago?

Yes, yes, yes, yes and yes.

umm then that would mean that 2/3rds of ALL Presidential Scholarships awarded to 7,500 incoming freshmen were given to freshmen from Illinois.

Can you understand how that isn't logical or possible, or is "understanding a weak point for you?"

lol

There’s been plenty of good advice!

Don’t dwell on it nor make a point of it and pay more attention to being ‘social’ and where you fit.

There is not house where it’s a focus or where they predominate.