why do you penalize traditionally southern houses?

Pretty sure KD has more OOS than in state girls. Actually I’m pretty sure that all OR houses are now more OOS than in state.

Who says you have to branch out in college though? That’s completely arbitrary. Some people want to stay close to home for school, and so they have friends who are already around— some people may find new friend groups but I don’t think it’s so far fetched to think most will keep their HS friends.

I’m OOS myself and I’ve never understood the criticism of alabama students. We’re coming to their home. If they want to hang out with other kids from alabama at the university of alabama, cool. They already went to their state school, they’re not trying to mislead anyone about their intentions lol

Ranks should not be determined by the geographic spread of a house. Alpha Phi has girls from ALL OVER. Does that make them a top house? Criteria for a top house should be things that actually matter, like:

Grades
Campus involvement
Sisterhood
Likability/friendliness

Judging a house because of where their members come from is a form of racism, except based on geography instead of skin color. You think you’re better than them because of where your girls are from instead of where theirs are from! #hypocrite

I’m a senior in one of the OR houses that is constantly criticized for being to in state. I’m from Alabama, but most of my friends in my house are from other states. There is a small group that is pretty much all alabama girls, but it’s always bothered me that my house is portrayed as only wanting in state girls.

I don’t know of anyone in my house (But I’m sure there are exceptions) who would refuse to be friends with someone based off of where they are from. It’s more about your personality and how you carry yourself.

XO, KD and AGD have awesome grades and are extremely involved on campus in politics, clubs and volunteering. Two of the three are known for having strong sisterhoods and all three all well respected. So to say they are “becoming irrelevant” because they don’t have as many girls from North Dakota as your house has is absolutely ridiculous.

People like you are the reason a lot of southern girls want to stick with other southern girls.

There you have it: "I can't imagine a girl from a New Jersey having much in common with a girl from Faunsdale, Alabama" This direct quote sums up why some of the insular OR houses are going down. Are there many houses lined up to take this one?

Grow up. Experience life. Meet other people. You will be shocked at how similar you can be to a girl from NJ or any other state/region. You will be amazed at how much you will grow by meeting people not like you. There are no houses that are mostly Northeast or Midwest, OR or NR, just houses that embrace all PNMs and those that exclude to their detriment. This is especially true with the incoming class at the school over 65% OOS. There are houses that rush quality girls for who they are not where they are from, and there are houses that rush girls for where they are from, quality or not.

It is cute that you think that houses that accept and welcome all quality girls are more narrow minded then houses that only accepte girls that are scared to branch out and insecure about how they measure up outside of their own small southern town (that is the feeling that comes through in your post).

I don’t think that anyone said that on this thread, but I would argue that kd has a cleaner rep and more involved/better grades rep than kappa. Both houses have the exclusive/mean/13th year of high school rep though. Tri delt has a pretty good reputation overall.

I think the point is that the point of the thread is that no house should be criticized for having a geographical focus unless they focus more on an area than getting quality girls (for instance, if a sorority wanted all AL girls and was taking QRs or girls with bad grades just because they were from Alabama).

"all three of those houses have higher grades, more involvement, and cleaner reputations than kappa and most of ddd" - OP Imho it's sounds like the OP is suggesting that southern or not, KD AGD and Chi O are better in general and are only ranked lower because they have a southern majority. In reality kappa and ddd are not ranked higher because they have an out of state focus but because they're just better houses.

Exactly what "what" said^^^^^ they aren't typically ranked below kappa and tri delt because they're mostly southern that has nothing to do with it.......

Exactly

This is pretty spot on but all OR has plenty of Bham girls

“because they bring a lot more than anyone from the state of Alabama ever will”

If this is how you feel about people from the state of Alabama, then WHY DID YOU CHOOSE TO COME TO SCHOOL HERE?

and here we have the gdi who has to bash sororities in general saying greeks are in for a "rude awakening"... no one said anything anywhere in this thread that people rely on sororities to get good grades.

Don't really care about Old Row vs New Row but do know very well the power of networking. Surrounding yourself with involved people with good grades means you are making connections with people who will more likely than not, be successful in the future. These future connections may in the future mean connections to opportunities.

In general I think sororities are irrelevant after college. What is not irrelevant is the networking and connections you are making with people in college. To discount that is doing yourself a disservice if you want to be successful in your future career.

If your goal is an Mrs. degree, well being in a well thought of sorority really can't hurt you there either. LOL

At the end of the day though, Alabama houses are so large, I suspect you are going to have powerful networking opportunities wherever you go.

Predominately out of state, NOT predominately out of region. The majority of students are still from the south. The only non southern state that’s a top 5 feeder to UA is California. Anyways, there’s not a single house here that is predominately Alabama girls. A little over 600 in state girls rushed last year. There are 7 old row sororities, and some of those girls went new row. That doesn’t leave enough girls for even half of every old row pledge class to be in state.

The fact is kappa, axo, ddd, kd, phi mu all want the best OOS and oor girls. Your post may have been accurate in 2010 but not anymore.