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by: ZTAPeople like to place ZTA as a top new row house, but they COB like crazy... they just did December COB (+17 girls). Didn’t even realize that was a thing. Wonder if they’ll do COB in the Spring again. probably.... also doing COB twice is very indicative of a poor rentention rate. Poor sisterhood?
#1 by: It’s all good
I know a couple of these girls. They were super, super sweet but also were grade risks during formal recruitment. Our house really loved them but couldn’t take them. I was hoping one in particular would re-rush next year and we could take her with better grades. Our house never does spring recruitment or COB. I bet that their mid- semester grades showed their mettle and now they have a great home. Good for them!
Commentby: So wrongDec 8, 2017 11:16:08 PM
I’m the person who wrote the reply. I’m not the OP. I’m just defending the girls ( especially the one girl I know and wanted) from the vitriol some of these posters write about ZTA. Hey, I don’t love the fact that they got caught dirty rushing some girls from Tennessee that we were also interested in ( and we got a few of them anyway). But, they are still a good new row house. And, if their house can take COB’s, great. My house can’t. Sorry. We are a one and done recruitment and have to live with how well we do once a year ( luckily, we do very, very well). So, back off.
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by: WellDec 9, 2017 12:28:20 AM
Just because you lose girls doesn’t mean you have to replace them. If a house is already over total they can’t COB
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by: WellDec 8, 2017 3:33:54 PM
Not to say there aren’t ZTAs with amazing true friendships in their sisters, but they’re known for having a bad sisterhood for a reason. I personally know 4 that dropped because of how bad the sisterhood was for them at least. The level of superficiality and a lack of genuity seemed to be big problems for my friends. It’s all good and fun to look cute, and looks matter, but they’re not everything. I thinks that’s why people knock on them. Recruiting largely (not entirely) off looks rather than personality is less likely to creative a strong sisterhood. Like I said, I’m sure there are super sweet ZTAs who have found their best friends for life. Besides, people like to say the more desired houses have bad sisterhoods and the less desired ones have good sisterhood. Not just the looks based houses that get those rumors.
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#3 by: EZ
It's always going to be harder for the house is not focus on in-state girls and connections relative to retention and the feeling some may have of not fitting in
If you're in a house that's picked from primarily old high school friends and connections, the risk of someone not fitting in his likely low. Transfers are more of an issue with out-of-state houses for reasons that have nothing to do with sisterhood. And, I do think there's a greater tendency to drop among juniors and seniors when after college you're not going to return home to your sorority sisters that live nearby
Not a ZTA but see this trend with OOS girls in general
don't know the details, but if Zta is using COB as a way of managing this, and getting girls that they Lnow, good for them!
#4 by: Well
Not a ZTA. But feel this COB subject is made to imply something bad and it's not.
COB is a good thing. More women get to join that really want a sorority.
Many women graduate in December and some chapters wish to fill their openings right away. Some nationals guidelines allow chapters to decide how close to total they need to stay.
Also, many chapters lose new members before initiation. New members just don't realize the commitment involved and the costs. Or they like the idea of a sorority during recruitment but really aren't the group joining type of person long term.
It's just part of life. People come and go-- Especially in 400 member chapters. A 5% swing in membership is not anything.
by: ^Dec 8, 2017 8:21:56 PM
#6 by: ZTA
I'm the original OP and no I did not make the comment by its all good. The question in hand is not the quality of women ZTA gave bids to during COB.
1) LIES! Not every house does COB. The only ones that have in the past 3 years are Gamma Phi, Alpha Phi, Zeta, DZ, Pi Phi, DG, KD, Phi Mu, and ADP. AOP and Theta - not sure maybe. (there could be others I don't know everything)
2)COB is never good. I don't care how anyone tries to frame it. COB means low numbers. Not that many girls graduate early. My house has done COB and even if our exec frames it as "good" they aren't fooling anyone. It means we had a lot of girls drop. Why do girls drop? They don't like the house, money, transfers ect...
3) I don't think ZTA has a bad sisterhood because their pretty. Gamma Phi (who is not known as "pretty" house has a bad sisterhood) Looks have nothing to do. If anything I have defended ZTA in the past when people shame them for being pretty, but that doesn't take away from the fact they have a bad sisterhood.
by: UghDec 9, 2017 9:58:33 AM
Dear OP, why are you so mean? Like at least 11 chapters have COB'd in the past couple years. I've lost a few sisters who had to move back OOS due to family issues. And some people graduate or just leave. Oh, and why bring GPhi into this? They have a good sisterhood from what I can see of my friends in that chapter. Anyways, yes people leave. More from OOS heavy chapters, yes.
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#7 by: Active
I think it’s pretty clear that zeta did COB so early so they would have less competition than they would in regular spring COB. These girls don’t know if they would have gotten a “better” bid or no bid at all in spring COB so why wouldn’t they accept a bid from zeta now and have it be a done deal.
This isn’t new though, zeta takes a huge COB pc every year
#8 by: For real
Cob means low retention rate and they need to get their numbers up. Period.
Yes some people have family members die or graduates in December etc etc but at the end of the day most people just transfer because they don’t like it , grades. ( more common reasons) . I’m not saying Zeta is a bad house but I agree with the OP that COB are never good...
Also another thing about Zeta is that thy have really strong chapters in Florida, Texas, and even up North. I know some girls who were attracted to Zeta just in case they wanted to transfer home and still be in a good sorority or even so people back home think they are top.
by: nopeDec 9, 2017 3:18:18 PM
COB doesn't always mean low retention rates. Often, yes, but not always. Some sororities have national policies that any chapter below total must COB. Some schools don't include december graduates towards total, so even if you have a ton of girls graduate in December you don't need to COB. A colony will likely COB several times to reach total, especially at a school like alabama where total is crazy high. Totals are also set differently at different schools, sometimes the average chapter size, sometimes median, sometimes towards the higher end. COB is a great way for girls to find homes, especially those who may not have otherwise joined a chapter. I'm glad these girls did!
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by: haaDec 10, 2017 2:05:36 AM
why are y’all so concerned with putting other chapters down i mean damn just be happy with where you’re at and leave the others alone unless you have something nice or uplifting to say
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by: Lol okDec 8, 2017 10:20:55 PM
The op and this post are obvi the same person. There is not once single house on campus that goes a year without non formal bids.
That would be saying no dec graduations, no drop outs due to ANY reason. In my pledge class alone in a top rated house one girls sister died and she got so depressed she had to leave, another partied her way in to a 1.3 GPA, and another just didn't like our house! Also upperclassmen will drop my best friend is dropping at the end of the year because with her study abroad abd internship in the next 2 years are more important.
We don't advertize but a few girls have joined our house at random times.
Get over yourself OP.
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