gpa for rush

I've heard differently. Good houses want at least a 3.5. I'd be lucky to have a 3.0 by the end of this year. I actually rushed this year but got cut from a lot of good house because of my GPA and I don't want it to be an issue again. People recommended me to take summer classes but I don't get why they would recommend that if it won't count towards my GPA? I'm so stressed out and worried.

Sororities aren't in the business of babysitting your GPA to see if you manage to fluff up your eff ups with a few easy summer classes. We have plenty of well qualified PNMs and don't have to coddle you. You should have studied harder when it mattered.

@sister You seem to assume a lot even though you don't know the pnm. Your comments are probably making her not even want to rush. There's nicer ways to say what you're trying to say. @pnm take everything that has been said and look at yourself. Do you think you are strong enough in other areas to make up for your bad GPA? Keep an open mind, keep a good attitude, and don't be discouraged. If this is what you really want, I wish you the best of luck, but it won't be easy.

NONE of them will automatically take somebody with less than a 3.0. You MIGHT have a chance if you've got something else - a beauty title, or two, honors and awards, fantastic activities. Or you're drop dead gorgeous or your daddy is as rich as Croesus.

I was looking through similar posts on this site and someone said that there is no quota that has to be reached for sophomores. It's just encouraged to take sophomores to make the house more diverse. Sophomores still have the same GPA requirements as freshmen. I wish someone would clarify what is actually accurate!!! Is there a quota or not? Is GPA still crucial for sophomores?

There is no sophomore quota so that's totally untrue. Anyone below a 3.0, no matter what class, is going to have a hard time with getting dropped from all the sororities, not just top ones.

@C Thanks for clarifying. Some people wonder why I ask a bunch of questions, well it's because of things like someone saying there is a sophomore quota and someone else saying there isn't. It's very confusing and frustrating.

I'm not the op but any chance you know what houses she had at pref?

I'm already on the right track with my grades. I'll probably finish with a 3.8-4.3 GPA this semester. It's just my first semester grades that were awful that brings my overall GPA down. If they would see that I've greatly improved, I wouldn't be as worried...but sadly they don't acknowledge that. They just look at the GPA on your resume/transcript and that's it. I've heard that they also don't care that your first semester was rough or if you took hard classes. They're very unsympathetic.

One bad semester proves you're a potential grade risk. One better semester doesn't make up for that. We don't take girls with a poor history over those with much better credentials. You should have studied harder and not effed up first semester.

Why so rude towards pnm? I'm sure she isn't the only one that didn't do well first semester. Lots of freshmen struggle in the first semester of college. I think what matters is that she brought her GPA up significantly. Improvement is not a bad sign. If anything, bringing her GPA up has proved that she can achieve good grades in college. Something that is also not looked at is the person's major. Of course someone with an easy major is going to have a 4.0 over someone with a very difficult major who may have a 3.0. Sure, the person with the difficult major should strive for that 4.0, but classes should be taken into consideration I feel even though I know they aren't during rush. Way more impressive to see a 4.0 as an engineering major than a 4.0 as an elementary education major.

Why so rude towards pnm? I'm sure she isn't the only one that didn't do well first semester. Lots of freshmen struggle in the first semester of college. I think what matters is that she brought her GPA up significantly. Improvement is not a bad sign. If anything, bringing her GPA up has proved that she can achieve good grades in college. Something that is also not looked at is the person's major. Of course someone with an easy major is going to have a 4.0 over someone with a very difficult major who may have a 3.0. Sure, the person with the difficult major should strive for that 4.0, but classes should be taken into consideration I feel even though I know they aren't during rush. Way more impressive to see a 4.0 as an engineering major than a 4.0 as an elementary education major.

Why so rude towards pnm? I'm sure she isn't the only one that didn't do well first semester. Lots of freshmen struggle in the first semester of college. I think what matters is that she brought her GPA up significantly. Improvement is not a bad sign. If anything, bringing her GPA up has proved that she can achieve good grades in college. Something that is also not looked at is the person's major. Of course someone with an easy major is going to have a 4.0 over someone with a very difficult major who may have a 3.0. Sure, the person with the difficult major should strive for that 4.0, but classes should be taken into consideration I feel even though I know they aren't during rush. Way more impressive to see a 4.0 as an engineering major than a 4.0 as an elementary education major.

I feel like I have the personality and looks, but it's just my GPA and that's what messed me up the first time I rushed. Now, since I was in a sorority first semester, I don't have any college activities to put on my resume because I was really involved within my sorority before I dropped. Should I try to get involved with volunteer work over the summer or put the activities I was involved with in high school so my resume doesn't look so empty? Also, if you're on a sororities rush list, does this mean they want no matter what your resume/GPA is?

Wait what? You were in a sorority and dropped? Are you a transfer? If you were in a sorority at bama and dropped totally different conversation .

Yes, I was in a sorority here and dropped before initiation. I felt like the house was not the best fit for me after trying it out for a couple months. People urged me to drop and re-rush since I wasn't happy. I want to rush again to find where I really belong and be part of a real sisterhood, which I didn't see in the house I was in.

@pnm are you the girl who started another thread asking if you can drop a sorority and rejoin?

Nooooo, I did not start that thread. I DEFINITELY do not want to rejoin the houses I dropped. I'm looking to find a new sisterhood.

Not knowing your situation between you and the dropped house you may have more to worry about than gpa. At this point it is what it is but chances are it will not turn out differently second time around and it may be worse. Not trying to be mean just being honest.

Curious how the house I dropped has anything to do with rush other than it's clear that they will drop me but that was a given. I dropped on my own. Still on good terms with the girls in that house for the most part. Also, can someone please answer my question about the COB process?

Do formal, COB is too limited for you.

Let me break it down for you:

1. Bad GPA
2. Rushed and pledged as a freshman but dropped
3. Sophomore re-rushing
4. Only wants houses that are "good enough" for her (in spite of the above factors) and actually thinks she was dropping houses during her first recruitment.

Seriously, the only thing that could make you a worse looking PNM is if you pulled a frat boy train on the AChiO front lawn while singing War Eagle.

Any significant COB opportunities will be with sororities you think you're too good for. The few that pop up in the houses you think you belong in would go quietly and directly to good friends of sisters who are already well known at those houses.

@sister If you want to keep bashing me without knowing all the details, please hop off the thread. I don't want to hear it. The house I pledged and dropped is considered a very good house here. Honestly, probably better than the one you're in. Stop being so hateful. It's not cool at all. I hope you have better things to do than bash a 19 year old through the internet. Buh bye.

The reason you are getting so many different answers is that there is no such thing as a recruitment checklist that will tell you if you meet X out of X criteria, then you will get a bid. Each sorority is different, has different needs that change from year to year, and a lot of membership criteria is private.

It's like a job interview. They might advertise they want someone with 10 years' experience and hire someone with 8 because they have other things to offer. Meanwhile, someone with 12 years' experience gets passed up because they didn't click for some reason. You don't know your competition or why a company would hire you over someone else. Nothing you can do will guarantee that you will get an offer. Same with recruitment. All you can do is present the best you, and hope for the best. Just give it a try!! You are looking for concrete answers and there are none. Take a deep breath and give it a try.

To say you have zero chance would be untrue. You're batting with two strikes and a foul. It's going to be hard, no doubt. You seem to realize this. If you have a place to live, have all your recs in order, and have planned for a successful summer class schedule, you might as well try. You'll meet more people ( always a good reason) and you won't wonder what if any longer.

You're right. That makes sense. Thank you!!

@facts Would taking summer classes back home or here matter? I would assume here because you said I could meet more people. I have yet to register but have the classes I should take in mind. The main purpose of taking some summer classes is to show sororities I care about my grades even though I didn't do well first semester and to bump up my overall GPA so it's not under a 3.0 when I rush. Under a 3.0 is never a good thing and I know that. I'm just trying to be a better pnm because apparently everyone thinks I suck on this site.

I honestly don't know. The advantage of taking classes at home is that you're home. It's a hassle to transfer the classes and such but it can be cheaper. The advantage of taking classes at UA is that there may be a potential upperclassman or two in a class that may be able to pull for you and you know the classes will easily end up on your transcript. If your paying for a summer rental anyway, the cost difference might not be that much. The most important thing is graduating and graduating on time. That's why you're going to college. I didn't rush until I was a sophomore. I was from out of state and wanted to focus on my grades my first year. I went into recruitment with all my recs, a decent gpa (3.5), and no pre-conceived idea of where I would fit best. I just knew I would land somewhere and make it work. But, I'm not going to sugar coat it, most of the sophomore girls I know had similar ( or better) resumes to mine and were happy to land in any house. The most jarring issue isn't your gpa- it's that you pledged a house with 140 plus other girls and didn't think you could find your girls there. They chose you; they wanted you. Another house is going to wonder if they give you a spot, are you going to do the same thing to them and take a spot from a girl that would be ecstatic to be there. I don't know you. I don't know your friends or how much pull they have in their houses for you. All you can do is try and see what happens.