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by: PNMI really do not understand all of the hate going on towards Alpha Phi because of the Iowa video. Iowa is so far away. The SEC chapters of Alpha Phi have all colonized well. I know a lot of girls who are considering Alpha Phi and it makes me sad to hear them say not anymore because they would be embarrassed to wear those letters. I don't understand how people can judge a whole chapter before it has even started yet.
#1 by: Agree
I'm an active in an already established sorority. We were all excited about alpha phis colony this year, but now I don't know anymore. This is the south and even though we have progressed with the times, we still like to think of ourselves as ladies. And the alpha phis at Iowa are far from being ladies.
I don't think it would have been as bad as if was if they hadn't mocked our beloved hotty toddy chant!
Think about this. The instructors and staff already are anti greek. Many of them scheduling tests and papers due during rush week. We see them every day rolling their eyes at us. Last thing we need is a group coming onto campus with the potential to bring down the entire Greek system!
Commentby: So ignorantSep 14, 2015 7:59:53 AM
You think It's your chant? Sorry! It's used by others too and also "beloved". Oh! And I know PLENTY of southern girls who are not "ladies". Maybe instead of just saying you think of yourself as a "lady" you should act like one and be kinder and practice some of that grace and hospitality you claim to own too!
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by: HelloSep 14, 2015 8:13:14 AM
My cousin is an Alpha Phi at Mizzou and they use that chant too--it wasn't being used to mock anyone. I doubt they get offended when we use THEIR chant!
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by: Why not?Sep 14, 2015 9:13:58 AM
Why don't you google hotty toddy! Go ahead! Do it! What do you find?
Ole Miss! You find nothing but Ole Miss! You don't find alpha phi, or any other university or organization in the nation who this cheer is credited to!
For alpha phi to use it, sounds like mocking to me.
Maybe you should let your mizzou cousin know it is insulting to many of us!
why do we want alpha phi on campus when according to you, they mock our university throughout the nation at various schools?
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by: Lame peopleSep 16, 2015 10:44:09 PM
Omg. Yes! Google your "hotty toddy" and you can see it started out as a chant from Virginia Tech with "Heighty Teighty"... It's on old-timey thing that many schools use.....Sorry. Not many people even know what Ole Miss is. :-( Seriously...no one wants to emulate any MS school. Get real.
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by: YesSep 17, 2015 6:36:26 AM
Googled it! All I saw was ole miss. Had to use Wikipedia to find even the smallest blurb about Virginia.
Do you even go here? Your school spirit sux!
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#2 by: Ummm no
Not sacred of alpha phi! Get over yourself! There was no need to post twice!
You forget that the ole miss student body consists of 50% oos students, right? We have ALL heard of ole miss in our home states and we have all associated the hotty toddy chant with ole miss!
Obviously you have a hard on for alpha phi. To the point you insult our beloved university. Perhaps YOU and others like you with your "so what" attitude is why we don't want alpha phi here!
by: And the prob is.....Sep 14, 2015 5:41:19 PM
...that the OOS students know how great APhi is in their home states. This is why the established chapters at Ole Miss have so much APhi hate going on here.
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by: LOLSep 14, 2015 7:32:05 PM
Again, this is Ole Miss not University of ____. OOS girls know the ranks here. No one is hating on them
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by: @LOLSep 22, 2015 2:46:48 PM
I'm on your side but ummm... "this is Ole Miss not University of ________." Actually, we are University of Mississippi...
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#4 by: New pnm
Honestly, I would be embarrassed if that was my sorority seen in videos like Iowa's. National media attention is never good.
My parents will be paying my dues. They have already voiced concern over whether or not ole miss sorority girls act like this. My mom has already said she will be disappointed if I drop out of recruitment to colonize with alpha phi.
#5 by: Okay let's break it down
In my sorority, we will cut girls for having a (one) beer in a social media picture! We will cut girls who post too many pictures of themselves in revealing outfits. We will cut girls with wild reputations.
Rush at Ole Miss is cut throat!
This video shows exactly the type of girl we will cut.
Why would we be accepting of a sorority colonizing on our campus when their chapters exhibit this type of behavior? We work really, really hard maintaining our reputations, grades, philanthropy involvement, campus involvement, etc. ALL OUR SORORITIES DO! If a video like this were to expose an Ole Miss sorority, the entire greek system would hurt. Probably not collapse, but certainly suffer!
While I understand that every chapter is different, this one does not instill confidence in many of us.
by: Yes!Sep 14, 2015 1:37:03 PM
by: You cut who is caughtSep 16, 2015 11:29:03 PM
Sadly, I mostly just witness southern women as good at "pretending" to be righteous. You know how to hide what you're really like, not really exhibiting these qualities you "require" everyone to possess. You are very good at "merchandising" yourselves. Try being real.
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by: ^^^Sep 17, 2015 6:39:45 AM
If you think so little of southern women and southern charm, why do you go here?
I'm guessing you don't! Your school spirit sux and you don't deserve to call yourself a rebel!
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by: What??Sep 22, 2015 9:52:47 PM
Why play "holier then thou" when everyone knows about the drunk, wild women at Ole Miss? Hypocrite?
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by: ObviSep 22, 2015 9:59:25 PM
Obviously you don't go here! Ole miss doesn't have drinking problems! Sure we are a school that likes to party, but with the exception of the freshmen who are away from home for the first time, most of our students know how to stop drinking when they have enough.
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by: Yes!Sep 14, 2015 8:30:24 PM
Couldn't agree more.
Wish it wasn't too late to invite zeta or dz or axo or any other national sorority to join us this year and pass on alpha phi.
Honestly if their nationals can't control their individual chapters, they don't deserve to colonize here.
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#7 by: a few thoughts...
I think the issue is a mismatch of campus cultures between Ole Miss / Iowa / Alabama and maybe a misunderstanding about the chat that comes from relying on google as a primary source of info. 17-20 year old don't anyways make the best decisions. These mistakes just happened to get a lot of publicity.
Apparently the Alpha Phi version of the “Heighty Teighty” chant (rhymes better with 'almighty') has been used for at least 20 years by chapters all over the country (when they had no SEC chapters, and little presence in the South at all). So while it is an unfortunate coincidence that it appeared in that video, the chant has nothing to do with Ole Miss.
I heard that even though all the groups at Iowa have similar chants, the Iowa chapter was suspended for the unPanhellenic / unbecoming nature of the video. So perhaps the incident will help change overall sorority culture at Iowa for the better?
I doubt the Iowa video would have gotten any attention if it had not been for the Alabama video, which really only got attention because of the football player being in it. Check out the UA Zeta recruitment video on you tube (if it hasn't been pulled already) it is very similar, minus the football player and production value.
If you think about it, any national organization will have difficulty keeping tabs on everything their members are doing. If there are 100+ members of a chapter on average and 150+ chapters, trying to monitor 150,000 college-aged women would be next to impossible
by: ActuallySep 16, 2015 8:33:59 AM
Oh yes yes yes it does have everything to do with Ole Miss...
"Actually as an Ole Miss reference, the first documented evidence of the phrase (then written as “Heighty! Tighty!”) appeared in the Nov. 19, 1926 copy of the Mississippian. That day, the following words appeared:
Heighty! Tighty!
Gosh A Mighty!
Who in the h—l are we?
Rim! Ram! Flim! Flam!
Ole Miss, by D—n!"
Heighty Tighty is the ORIGINAL Hotty Toddy. Do you even go here? Because if you do you should know your history!
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by: LolSep 17, 2015 7:17:37 AM
So you're saying that people are really ignorant? Great excuse. If you google Heighty Tighty your results are all Hotty Toddy Related.
Pretty sure "My Country Tis of Thee" was set to "God Save the Queen" on purpose. It wasn't like they accidentally came up with the same melody.
Neither is an unfortunate coincidence.
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#8 by: I hope pnms r reading...
Look at what the old guard does here at Ole Miss - total online defamation to anyone new - anyone who they perceive as a threat to their decades old domination.
No tolerance at all. No kindness. Thread.....after thread....after thread of vitriole....and they hold themselves in judgement of others?
Pnms are smarter than this. They know what you old guard are doing......
It will be really interesting to see how many women drop out of recruitment to try something else.
by: Amen!Sep 16, 2015 3:43:57 PM
This is so true. I find it disgusting how unwelcoming we are as a greek community. We voted to invite them to campus and now we defame them anonymously. Classy!
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by: Are you kidding?Sep 16, 2015 4:11:13 PM
Aopi was welcomed with open arms! if you spent 10 minutes on campus, you will see nobody walks around insulting them!
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by: Are you kidding?Sep 16, 2015 4:14:31 PM
Aopi's first bid day was huge with all the sororities there to cheer on their first pledge class! We all came together to support them! My sorority had a joint swap with them!
We are not opposed to new sororities! We need them! We just don't need alpha phi with all the bad press they have received lately!
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by: UmmmSep 16, 2015 11:46:30 PM
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by: WhatSep 14, 2015 1:24:58 AM
If one organization can bring down a system that's been in place for over 100 years then it must be pretty fragile. People (bottom tier girls) are hating on alpha phi because they are threatened by them. Alpha phi has done well at other SEC schools and there's no reason they shouldn't do well here, as long as people let them. There is room in the ole miss Greek system for plenty more houses, especially with so many girls going through rush this year. Leave alpha phi alone and let them be another great house in the Ole Miss Greek system, I promise it won't kill you.
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