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by: NotSure   

I have a question: If a girl was invited back to 5 houses for "skit round" and then has to narrow it down to 2 houses for preference--then, both of the 2 houses she put down as her top 2 decides not to keep her but one or more of the 3 that she didn't choose does, will she still get a bid from whichever house has her on their list or is she just cut altogether? I like all 5 of the houses that I was invited back to for "Skit Round" and am going to have a hard time deciding who to chose for my top 2.

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#1by: wtf   
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what???

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by: Intimidating   

Don't intimidate this person. Not everyone is expert on rush..do you understand that? That's why she's here, asking the question. For some people, this experience is brand new. Anyway, the question being asked is whether she ranks all five or just two going forward.

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by: wtf   

Lol the question being asked is if she can get a bid from houses that dropped her. To which the answer is an obvious no.

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by: Intimidating   

To WTF: OBVIOUSLY...she's not asking about houses that drop her. She's asking IF MORE THAN TWO DO have her on their lists, would she default to the 3rd, 4th or 5th if they kept her.

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by: wtf   

@ Intimidating You should read the original post again. She says:
-If someone was invited back to 5 houses for skit round
-Then narrows it down to 2 for preference
-Then (after skit? after preference? it is unclear at this point but will become clearer later) those two decide not to keep her, but one of the other three does
-Will she get a bid from one of the other three houses or is she released from recruitment?

The fact that she is asking about getting a bid vs being released from recruitment means she is asking about how things work during bid matching after pref.

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by: wtf   

But yes, if she's talking about the transition from skit night to pref then she ranks her top 2 and based on how all 5 houses ranked her there are 3 outcomes, she can either be:

-invited back to pref for two houses (these don't necessarily have to be her top two)
-invited back to pref for just one house (this also doesn't necessarily have to be one of her top two)
-released from recruitment

It's just like any other invitational round, which is also why I didn't get the question in the first place.

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#2by: NotSure   
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Thank you, Intimidating. I'm not trying to be disrespectful or ask stupid questions, I just really don't know the answer. Plus, I know that we have to pick 2 after skit rounds but wondered if the 2 that I end up choosing don't want me back but one of the 3 that I put in the bottom does, could I still possibly still get a bid from my bottom 3? Does that make sense?

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by: NotIntimidating   

Yes! If your top two you ranked cut you after tonight then I'll go by the 3 you cut. As long as atleast one house invites you back to pref you will get a bid.

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#3by: NotSure   
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Thank you so much, NotIntimidating. You answered my question.

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by: wtf   

Okay honestly I wasn't really sure what you were asking which is why I asked what. Here's the actual deal:

-You rank your houses.
-You are matched based on how the houses rank you and how you ranked them. You may get to go back to your top two houses or you may not. It depends on how they rank you.
-On pref you rank the two houses for which you attended preference ceremonies.
-The vast majority of the time one of these houses will be the one to give you a bid. Unless you are released from recruitment you don't get to get a bid from any of the other three.
-Now here's where it starts to get complicated. Before you get released from the two houses you preffed, if you maximized your options (attended all parties you were invited to and ranked all houses that you were invited to) you will be eligible for a quota addition at one of the two houses you preffed. not the other three.
-In the rare case that neither of the houses you preffed offers you a bid, you will be released from recruitment.
-In the case that you are released from recruitment, you are eligible for a snap bid from any house that has not met quota. Usually snap bids are given to friends of members of the chapter though so this is a really long shot.

Does that make sense? You're not going to match into a house you didn't pref unless you get released from recruitment and you end up being offered a snap bid.

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by: wtf   

by quota addition I mean that you weren't going to receive a bid from either house you preffed because you were lower on their list but bc you maximized your options the system wants to match you somewhere if possible. This is why people are saying that like 99% of people who attend pref will get bids. I don't know if the actual number is 99% of people who attend pref, but it is very high.

The point is, if you attend pref, it is highly likely you will get a bid at one of the houses that preffed you. You would have to have extra special circumstances to get a snap bid at a house you didn't pref after being released from recruitment (getting no bid). It's just not going to happen.

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by: Clarify   

I think, wtf, that the pnm is asking about the transition from skit night to pref.

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by: wtf   

@clarify I'm pretty sure she's not because she was asking about whether she was going to get a bid from the other three houses vs be released from recruitment, hence where my initial confusion was coming from.

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by: wtf   

But yes, if she's talking about the transition from skit night to pref then she ranks her top 2 and based on how all 5 houses ranked her she can either be:

-invited back to pref for two houses (these don't necessarily have to be her top two)
-invited back to pref for just one house (this also doesn't necessarily have to be one of her top two)
-released from recruitment

It's just like any other invitational round, which is also why I didn't get the question in the first place.

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#4by: ok   
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Y'all have thoroughly confused me now. How many girls do the chapters have to cut after skit before pref to get the numbers down to a managable size for a pledge class? So the rushes rank and then get asked back to the houses based on who didn't cut them? It's not the same as when they got to rank 3 houses. Please explain.

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by: wtf   

How many girls do the chapters have to cut after skit before pref to get the numbers down to a managable size for a pledge class?

This depends on how houses have done in the past and how many girls traditionally rank them #1. If a house has a high number of pnms ranking it #1 so is more popular among pnms ranking after pref, then my that Panhellenic will tell that house to invite less people to pref. If a house has less people ranking it #1 (so more people ranking it #2) then that house has to invite more people in order to make quota.

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by: wtf   

So the rushes rank and then get asked back to the houses based on who didn't cut them? It's not the same as when they got to rank 3 houses.

It's just the same as in other rounds. You rank the houses and the houses rank you. Who you get asked back by is determined by how those lists match up and how many people each house is allowed to ask back for preference. Your ranking of the houses counts, as do the rankings the houses make of the PNMs.

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#5by: NotSure   
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WTF and Clarify---I WAS asking about the transition between skit night and preference night in regards to me ranking top 2 but having to "drop" 3 others that I also really like and then wondering-- if it is just like it has been so far where if my top 2 don't invite me back but 1 or 2 of my bottom ranked ones do, regardless of where I ranked THEM, do they move up into the house/houses that I go to for preference night. So, in a way, you both understood. I also thank you for the answers and it answered my original question. It helps to at least know what to expect. Thanks again.

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#6by: NotSure   
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Also, do the houses that I put in the bottom three after tonight (between skit and preference) see that? I mean, will they know I didn't put them in my top 2 before they make their lists? I HONESTLY like all 5 so this is going to be super tough and I certainly don't want to burn any bridges.

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by: Intimidating   

Let us know what happens...best of luck to you!

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by: wtf   

Nope, they won't see it and they won't know. I'm pretty sure the only people who see any lists are the recruitment officers/advisors who hand in the chapter's lists and maybe some greek life/panhel people, I forget how the stuff the PNMs hand in is handled, sorry. But we don't do bid matching by hand anymore (a computer does it) so I think the advisors shouldn't know where you ranked the houses on your own personal list.

It's great that you like all 5 houses you were invited to for skit! That means you'll most likely be really happy on bid day! :D

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by: well   

the only way they will know is if they know they ranked you high on their list and you don't come back or get a bid meaning you ranked other houses before them who you mutually matched with but we all know that happens during recruitment and while actives can be sad over that no one is going to be mad at you because of it

if you rank your skit houses 1 to 5 and get invited back to the houses you ranked 4 and 5... and then rank house 4 before house 5 after pref... but still get a bid to house 5 (which you ranked lowest on both skit and pref) no one will know how you ranked them and you will still be happy during bid day

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#7by: Wow!   
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All you ladies need to head back over to greekchat! Start your own action over there.

You are making my head spin with all your back and forth! All I am really reading in your long and wordy posts is bla bla bla

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I will say this rushee has the attitude that all rushees should have, though. If you like all 5, then you're in good shape come bid day!

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by: @Wow!   

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Rude.

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by: ummmm   

...this site has MUCH better info than greekchat...not as many catty-old-bats throwing shade on everyone...and copter-moms who were never in a sorority trying to suck-up...

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by: lol   

Are you the internet police, Wow? No one is allowed to type a long post unless you okay it? Lol

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by: Wow   

Ole miss has one of the last recruitment of the season. The ladies on greekchat can't comment on the ole miss thread because alumni are supposed to be silent. So they have all wondered over here.

All the great advice you are getting on this site is in fact coming from all those ladies.

Sorry to break it to you but if you look at time stamps, this site lights up in the middle of rounds when no pnm or active should have their phones.

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