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by: Pnm    

So I love ole miss and really want to go but I'm from Chicago and quite a few girls I know have transferred. Last year was a girl in phi mu who came back after first semester. I also know a few more but none of them had a horror story it was more they didn't feel welcome.
They actually said everyone was really nice when they visited and met the students that do orientation etc. Once school started though it felt more mean girl and not as welcoming.
I feel stressed because I loved the school and am fortunate to be able to not pay tuition with my ACT score. I just would really appreciate owing if greek life is that bad.

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#1by: Answer   
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It is a bit different in the south, but it's all what you make of. There are girls from the north in every sorority (some have more than others). Are you a legacy? If not, I would try to visit soon and make connections with actives. In fact, even if you are a legacy, you should do this.

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#2by: Just my thoughts   
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The biggest thing is connecting with people and that's going to be true no matter where you are from. I wouldn't give up after the first semester. I am also an OOS student and I will say it is probably easier for the Mississippi students who are coming to school with a large number of already established friends. If you are planning to go Greek you will probably find it easier to connect within the sororitys that are made up of mostly OOS students. However, I have friends in all the sororitys, some are from Mississippi and some are OOS students. One thing that will help is if you are in a 'school' such as Honors, Public Policy, Croft, etc., those students seem closely connected to each other. Plus since your grades are good you would want to consider joining the Honor fraternities when you are invited or look for any of the clubs that appeal to your interests. Don't limit yourself just to Greek Life - it's good, but because the sororitys are so big you have to work harder to find the people you have some common interest with. I love Ole Miss - but I had to work at making myself join things and get involved. I actually went through recruitment as an after thought - sort of a last minute decision. There are some girls who come here strictly for the sororities - and that was interesting and entertaining to me. I have found a few friends in my sorority but honestly most of my best friends have come through other organizations. So my only advice is if you come to Ole Miss - look for clubs/organizations to join and start meeting people. Meet the people in your dorm. Just meet people until you find your group.

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by: Agree   

The advice above is excellent. And if you're OOS, especially out of region, then things can seem super welcoming during a visit and maybe some people think that meant finding friends would be easy. I think what the girls you know experienced was being in a rather different environment (majority of students here are a mix of Mississippi and Deep South) and having to work to find "their place" which can be harder when you don't know anyone.

I think some girls believe that sorority life means instant friends. It doesn't. Houses are huge so it takes work to find your group.

I think the girl who left after one semester really didn't give OM a chance. The irony is that she was in a sorority. It's sometimes girls who don't get into a house who leave after a semester.

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by: Possible Truth   

Considering the OP is talking about someone who was in Phi Mu, which is a really good sorority, I think the issue was more a case of homesickness and inability to adjust to college life. That can happen to anyone, anywhere.

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#3by: trasnferring   
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dont come here! if you aren’t from here, you’ll be looked down on.

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#4by: Northsider   
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If your ACT is really that high, what about U of I, Wisconsin or Northwestern? Any Big 10 school is ranked above all SEC schools academically except Vandy. U of I Greek Life is huge (Bama huge).

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by: ^   

Co-sign on Illinois. Greek life is huge yet way more laid-back than in the SEC. When it comes to sororities, there are 18 NPC chapters, but each chapter is small enough (~250 members) that it's easier to get to know people. Tiers, while they exist, don't matter as much as they do in the South, and you don't absolutely have to have recs to get a bid to a good house.

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by: Elsewherr   

I'd add Indiana too. Great campus (very pretty too) and Greek life.

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#5by: reality   
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Some hard messages here, but one thing that is on target is that OOS, usually OOR, girls are sometimes surprised to not make a "top tier" house when they would have made that level of house at their own state university, etc.

The "lower tier" houses here are fantastic (and getting even stronger), so I think most girls who land there are happy....but I have known girls (and their moms) who were really upset that they that were cut from top or mid-tier houses simply because they didn't know someone. So from that standpoint, that can be a tough landing if you were a super-star back home and didn't realize how key connections are.

The only advice I have for the OP is to be aware of this and the overall culture of OM, then decide what works for her. Just because she knows girls who left doesn't mean she won't like it, but these are good questions to ask.

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#6by: wow   
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Post #4 hit the nail on the head

I know Ole Miss has a type, either you fit in or you don't. But for the longest time, I couldn't figure out why some out of stater's were happy and some hated it, like there is no middle ground. But post #4 just made me realize.

Yes, if you are OOS you won't have a chance at a top house, and not only that, most girls will over look you. The jackson, MS boy is going to spend his life in Jackson, MS and he just isn't interested in a girl from St Louis/NC or wherever.

Personally the reason OOS give for coming here is "it's a pretty campus" I think is bogus, I don't even think the campus is great and I think that's probably the dumbest reason to pick a college over.

If you want the southern thing and have the grades, personally I'd pick Vandy, Nash is a great city, has a southern charm but they aren't 50 years backwards, SMU is also good. If you are looking public, BAMA has us beat in everything. And you'll get more of a fair shot there. I think Auburn is most like us, but again, you'll get more a fair shot there.

If you come here, just know you'll be digging yourself out of a hole. I mean I am happy here, but to be honest, I think I'd be a lot more happier elsewhere

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To @wow -

Agree that picking a school for its campus is not a good reason but I have known girls who've done that. Interestingly they are all from out of region - Illinois and Colorado are two states I know girls from who did that.

The Illinois girl said - no lie - "I visited a friend and fell in love with the campus and town." Then she got into a lower tier house and was unhappy all four years. Stunned at not making top or middle tier because of no connections.

The Colorado girl wanted SEC tradition, etc. and picked OM over other SEC schools because of the same reason. And I've read a few posts here citing the campus, etc.

It's interesting to me that it's mostly out of region students who chose OM for this reason (at least that I know of).

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#7by: OOS Reb   
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I'm an OOS from the upper South who came to Ole Miss with no sorority connections, and to be honest I was unprepared for recruitment. Good recs, good grades, good high school involvement weren't enough to get me into the mid tier house I wanted. Without connections you'll most likely end up, like I did, in a lower tier house, where you might not fit in as well as you would with a mid or upper tier house. Variable quota's first year was my freshman year and it made our competitive recruitment even more brutal for girls without connections. VQ has helped the 2 new sororitys to grow, but that growth has been forced. Know the truth- that without connections recruitment is rough. If you care more about being in any sorority than being in a specific sorority you will be fine. I had made good friends before recruitment, so I have friends in all sororitys, including my own. I love being Greek and I love Ole Miss. Connections will get you in higher ranked houses, but loving Ole Miss is all down to how much effort you put into Ole Miss.

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#8by: OMG   
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Do most transfers leave after first semester or at the end of first year? These posts are disturbing.

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by: Eyes open    

It's really bad after variable quota. Some transfer at the end of the fall semester. Others transfer after spring semester because of scholarships. Most scholarships only start in the fall because selection is in the spring. If I knew how messed up it was here, I would not have chosen Ole Miss. When I hear girls from my hometown are interested in Ole Miss, I fill them in because I wish someone had done the same for me. If you need a scholarship to go out of state, you will be stuck until after the spring semester. Chose wisely!

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#9by: Sigh   
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Thanks to everyone who has posted here. It is shameful. These posts have corroborated what we thought were protestations of a homesick student.

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by: come on   

The OP was asking for truth, don't badmouth those who are telling it.
Truth is without connections being OOS and getting into the sorority you probably would have at home is hard and Variable Quota makes it harder still. There is a good chance OOS without connections will go to a lower tier house. But the truth is that even the lower tier houses are great.

The most important truth is your sorority and college experience is what you make it!!!

You can have a great Greek experience whether you are KD or Theta, or any house in between.
Yep, recruitment here is tough. But take my word for it, you can be in a lower tier and have friends in upper or mid tiers. You can have dates with top tier guys. You can love your sorority. You can love Ole Miss. It's up to YOU!

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#10by: oos   
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as a out of region student post #4 is totally right. i’m pretty wealthy, had an outstanding resume, extremely high test scores, and solid recs, some from a few major ceos and coos alumi and i ended up bottom tier and am extremely unhappy. if you arent from memphis/mississippi you might have a hard time fitting in.

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by: Why   

Why is everyone so unhappy in the bottom tier if everyone is an OOS student with a great resume, solid recs and high GPA? I'm in a lower tier and my sisters are amazing. All of them are top tier. I have friends in all the sororities and there is honestly not much difference between any of them. I guess it's what you make of it.

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by: True true    

SAME! Don't go here unless you have the personality type that is okay with settling and being forced somewhere you might not belong. Go somewhere that has room for top quality OOS/OOR in each sorority. Read the Bama Greek Rant page. It sounds like OOS/OOR do great there in "top" sororities, and are even taking over in some cases.

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by: Keep it real   

There are many differences between the sororities. I have no idea how people honestly think or claim they are "all about the same". They are not at all! I am not going to get into pointing out differences because that is when the bashing begins. That is not relevant to this thread. To the OOS girls looking at this thread, just know what you are truly getting into here. The system is rigged against you on this campus, especially after variable quota started. Even if you are pretty, great grades, good personality, come from money, and secure solid old school Ole Miss recs, that will not be enough for you to be placed where you "belong" during rush. The MS girls get what they want first, and then the OOS girls fill the other spots on the lists. MS alum moms "help" in their houses during the week of rush, but they are also there to make sure their friend's daughters, with grades way worse than yours, are on the list before you.

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