so... asa

Even if more sororities opened without housing it still wouldn't decrease the pledge class sizes because girls who specifically WOULD like to be in a sorority without living in a house (because of money, extracurricular responsibilities, what have you) will only look at those chapters. The pool of "traditional" rushees will not decrease.

It's a frustrating situation all around.

This is exactly right. The only reason other NPC sororities didn't present was the housing situation. They know they can't maintain a competitive chapter without a competitive facility. ASA does not maintain housing at very many schools. There is always a discrepancy between housed and unhoused, just look at Indiana.

What does that even mean?

I agree that we should support them.

However, looking at the most recent colonizations, and basing their chances of success in comparison to those, it's not looking good for ASA.

You can't really compare them to DDD when DDD has an actual house, is a strong national organization and has alumni support. Plus $$$.

It just wasn't a good idea to colonize when you have no desire to be a house that wants to participate in formal recruitment. That's just not the kind of sorority that will thrive here.

It will be interesting to see where they go from here.

Panhel love!

"Recolonizating" best word ever. Thank you Snoop Dogg.

Also, Tri Delt may have $$$ and alum support to the skies but it isn't helping them to become a more popular and desired chapter. If ASA (or Tri Sig or D Phi E or any of the smaller national groups) had been here since 1910 and all that time been a strong performing chapter with a house, their national status would matter not one whit.

Disagree. After DDD's recent pledge class, it's obvious they are making strides to improve. Looks like they're doing a "re-org" of sorts by taking super small but high quality pledge classes until they can build their rep back up. It's an alternative to folding all together and recolonizing in a few years. Personally I think they would have been better of recolonizing but if they can pull this off, more power to them. I think it will especially help them now that ASA is here to take the new bottom house spot.

But the point is...if DDD is so strong and awesome nationally and has all these fantastic resources, then why the hell didn't they think to do that before? The chapter has struggled for years. My guess is that the actives in the chapter finally pushed back and told DDD nationals that bidding everyone with a pulse wasn't the answer. National$ always say that "quality not quantity" is a copout, but oftentimes it really is the truth.

You literally just answered your own question.

Honestly I think it has more to do with phc. Bot houses HAVE to bid everyone per their rules. Just like pnms have to maximize their options to be a quota addition if necessary to get their bid, houses have to maximize their options and take everyone in order to take quota additions. Some phas also wont let the chapter cob for a year if they dont (idk if ours has the cob rule). Im guessing it took a bit of talking to either work with panhel to get out of these rules or nationals just said "screw it we'll help fund your chapter while youre in the red due to low membership while you rebuild"

Please do not listen to @Dic above. No NPC sorority mandates their chapters enroll just any living, breathing, interested female student as a new member.

All 26 NPC member groups have policies, purposes, standards, rules, and regulations regarding the type of women who shall be eligible for membership. An overall standard of quality remains highest above quantity when choosing new members.

As to a few of our chapters having low membership numbers, no campus is immune to that type of occurrence. The problem of boosting numbers is likely first left to the individual sorority, and a strong panhel will definitely support their efforts to grow. A campus admin will sometimes be highly supportive toward its fraternal orgs.

The ultimate decision as to how long a smaller group remains on campus is best determined by an individual group itself, working within panhel and campus limitations.

@asa_uofa

Yes they are. They had their bid day yesterday. Also they've had an instagram since April. It's @asa_uofa. Follow and watch them rise in the ranks. They're going to crush every other house.

They invited girls from all the other sororities to attend their bid day. Where were you? Everyone on campus knew about it.

Lol who talks like they're so sure of things when they have no idea what they are talking about? Dummy.

ASA is soon to be top house. Just fyi. So you better start talking about them. Follow their insta.

They are doing recruitment throughout the whole year. But they already have close to 90 people as of what their leadership board has stated

What you're describing is what SHOULD happen when a new group colonizes. But as you can see from every other post in this thread, ASA won't be as large or as strong as the other chapters on campus, meaning it won't affect recruitment/pledge class size numbers all that much.

This has to be sarcastic... wow

Literally no one here is saying anything bad about them. Get off your high horse.

Probably by KA

I would like a bottom tier frat will ask them.

Who would even want to go to hoco with like 8 girls? lol you're a last resort

Definitely not better.

They just made tri delt look really good by comparison.

Hahaha yeah no way are they equal to tri delt. ASA has a long way to go. Sorry.

Haha they are even. Still below average but very even with their new classes. Why don't they just combine and make everyone's life easier

When did sororities become a beauty competition? Lol.

the whole point of colonizing is to take girls from a wide variety of years so that you have girls leading the chapter who aren't also balancing the transition to college, lol. if a colony was all freshmen it would be a disaster.