sorority vibe and inclusivity

You sound super gullible. Pushy loud mouth washed up upperclassmen "top tier" wh-res get off on turning girls like you out - pressuring you to black out, blow lines, and screw a bunch of random guys. It's a joke and competition to them to turn your naive -ss into a sloppy embarrassment.

As for money, top houses stalk you to find out if you're rich. They look up your parents' house value on zillow, linkedin your parents, did you go to a private high school, stalk your ig and fb to see where you vacation and who you've dated. All of that said, well over half of the girls in those houses are tacky and desperate wannabe rich upper middle class, if that.

Avoid the nonsense by joining chem frat and find a nice future doctor or Apple engineer who will make $120K at 22yo.

hmm okay I guess my response to the last comment is, I'm not gullible and I know the ramifications of going for "top houses". I'm saying this from a place of wanting to be w the social and fun girls that are considered good "quality" all around. Of course I'll look for where I fit in, I just think that w how I want my college experience to go, id like what would be considered an upper tier house from the outside. However, I made this post bc I wanted to know if what it looks like from the outside - fun and sweet - is even true because of the rumors ive heard about wealth, weird hazing, and rushing on looks. What stinks is y'all in the comments are all saying such different things it's hard to know what to believe :/

see ^^^ that's what scares me hahaah at the other schools i've seen the top houses are top because they're fun but have a good sisterhood and really enjoy others presence instead of that terrifying hazing crap. i'm scared I won't fit in w some greeks bc of that and getting such conflicting opinions isn't helping me decide. i get what y'all are saying about not wanting top bc its top, and okay if we put that aside i just want to know then--if i did happen by coincidence to like a top house during rush are they going to be giving out bids based on wealth? because that would indicate to me what kinda girls live in the houses

I mean it's hard to tell about the cattiness and wealth and hazing during rush tho you know what I mean? But I appreciate the advice thanks everyone

Keep in mind that super rich girls in top tier sororities live for greek life. If you can't measure up in terms of wealth, you will be lost trying to keep up with their lavish lifestyles. As long as you remain level headed and don't try and constantly measure up to them, you will be fine. Else you will be lost in a depressing spiral of trying to prove yourself to the people around you, only to realize down the line that you've wasted your glory years trying to keep up with a group of self obsessed narcissists instead of focusing on what you should have the whole time: school
p.s. this has been my personal experience

Dude the worst thing you can do is try to pick a house you like before even going through rush. Unless you're considering schools im completely different partts of the country (i.e. The south) the sorority experience will likely be very similar, as long as you go in with an open mind and no predisposed judgements. As far as money goes, as long as you can pay dues and afford new outfits for every event, you'll be fine, but if you go in so eager and worried about the rep of the house you will not have a good rush experience

Ask yourself how you define good.

You asked us "can I get a good house?" so if we believe them all to be good, we can tell you that you 'might' become a member of a good home. And it's 'might' because there are never absolute guaranteed bids for anyone.

Just be your own sweet self. No amount of acting cool, wearing pretty clothes, telling fancy stories, and cutting your sorority homes based on tiers during recruitment is going to make you happy if you are not happy with yourself.

Do not worry about how initiated sorority members are fitting-in to their sorority homes. Worry about YOU and how you feel with the sorority women you meet. If the women in any particular sorority do not make you feel comfortable, do not join that home.

is the other school ur deciding between out of state?

As a freshman at the end of her first year looking back at rush and recruitment I want to add my thoughts. I really want to stress that going into rush I wanted a specific top house, mainly because it was top and multiple members of my family had been sisters at different schools. That being said, none of them were in this house at Michigan, and I had no idea what it would be like.

First sets is super overwhelming, you see like 16 houses and you have no idea where you're going to end up and you're just trying to remember which girl you talked to in which house and who you liked and how to rank right. If you're really set on a top house, my best advice to you is be open to every house because I ended up actually really hating the house I thought I should go for (the top tier one). As rush went by, it was easy to see that me and my friends were all initially set on one or more of the "top" three houses, but by third sets and prefs we were all extremely happy with the houses that we had. Not including myself, my friends who aimed high for the top tier initially ended up in two of the top houses, the two houses considered tier "1b", and some mid tier houses. And we are ALL really happy!!!

I can't stress this enough that rumors you hear on this site can scare PNMs before rush even begins and can even influence rush rank choices, but every house has fun, every house has a social schedule ad mixes with frats, and every house has a good sisterhood in a different way.