bids
by: pnm#1 by: tbh
It happens to a lot of the girls that go through recruitment because all 8 houses cut a lot of girls. A very large percentage of freshman girls go through recruitment, and it's not possible for the sororities to accommodate all of them. Pledge classes are already too large and really outnumber the fraternities (that's why mixers are so awesome for the frats here - like shooting fish in a barrel). That's why Tulane is expanding the number of sororities on campus - to allow more girls to get bids.
Comment#2 by: geauxgreek!
Thanks to Tulane working to bring on new sororities, more girls should get bids this year than in the past because a) there are more houses to take them (duh, it's math), and b) because the newest house (ADPi) doesn't have the numbers yet (because the number is based on three years of recruitment, I'm not making a comment on the size of their chapter) to drop a lot of girls.
Here's a little insider info on how the process works:
Bids are assigned during rush based on this complicated algorithm - all Panhellenic sororities across the country use it. The number of girls that each house can drop/cut/release (because they would be "happier elsewhere") depends on their numbers from the three previous recruitments. This happens after each round. For example, because ADPi is new, they don't have the numbers because they haven't yet participated in 3 years of recruitment; so they will be able to cut very few girls (possibly none), until they have the numbers to allow more cuts. Because of ADPi, more girls should get bids this year - but not a ton more. Quota will be set at a number determined by the algorithm that allows all the houses (or most of the houses) to reach quota through formal recruitment so they won't have to give out bids during a post-rush COB (continuous open bidding) period. Quota will probably be around 70-75 this year (but I wish it was smaller because these pledge classes are just too big).
by: <3Sep 8, 2014 4:12:54 PM
#3 by: rush parties
WELL since we're spilling all recruitment secrets on this board, listen up PNMs: rush parties are a thing and if you want to be in a sorority, you should go to them. They're a major violation of recruitment rules (we're not supposed to interact with y'all until recruitment) so they're kept really hush hush, but it's easy to find out about them if you talk to older girls/people in your hall. When I was a naive little freshman, I literally stumbled onto one between a big 3 sorority and top fraternity before classes started. Now, because the Greek office is getting stricter, they're a little harder to find.
by: @OMGSep 8, 2014 4:38:28 PM
#4 by: How it really works
If you put two houses down when signing your bid card (or one if you only were invited to one pref party), you are guaranteed a bid. If you don't match high enough on either group's list, you will be placed as a quota addition in one of the houses. That is why some groups have more new members than quota. Only if you are dropped by all houses, withdraw, or only put one house on your bid card when you had two options can you wind up with no bid. Check with the Greek affairs office if you don't believe me.
by: noSep 9, 2014 9:28:51 AM
that's not quite accurate - they're are girls who preffed two houses who don't get bids come bid day, it happens every year. And it's really sad.
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by: @noSep 9, 2014 12:43:04 PM
She's right - sororities aren't allowed to drop after preference (which sometimes when you see a squirrel walk through the door is the worst news ever). But you're right too - every year, girls who preffed wind up with no bid on bid day. What gives?
But all that fancy algorithm stuff above is accurate. Recruitment is the coolest thing ever.
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by: HowitreallyworksSep 9, 2014 6:41:05 PM
Girls who attended pref, signed a bid card, and did not get bids did not maximize their options. Girls who withdraw because they don't like their remaining choices often say they did not get a bid when they should say they did get a bid to a house they wanted. That is why people get confused. Best advice is to keep an open mind and not get set on one house.
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#5 by: How it really works
Also, Greek affairs may share the numbers with you from last year but very few girls are dropped entirely from recruitment or even single pref. It is not to your advantage to single pref if you want to be Greek. If you have two options and could see yourself in both houses, then you should list both. If you SIP, then you cannot be placed as a quota addition and may miss out on the house you really wanted.
by: noSep 9, 2014 9:30:05 AM
that's also not right - plenty of girls are dropped from recruitment every year. It happens more during the first weekend and significantly less in the second weekend because by then the houses are more sure they want you.
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by: alsoSep 9, 2014 12:45:11 PM
even if when you pref two houses, you can only see yourself at one, you still shouldn't suicide ("single pref") because you may cry your eyes out on bid day but find out that the house you thought you didn't want was the best thing that ever happened to you.
seriously, it's so much more fun to be Greek than to not be a part of Greek life
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#7 by: Hmmmm
Who here thinks Howitreallyworks is actually the Greek Life Office? Veeery pc stuff - I think what she means is that the system is designed so that there is enough room for every girl that reaches pref round.
Quota IS based on the number of girls who pref and sign bid cards. Quota won't necessarily be higher because there's an additional chapter, so even though more girls will get bids, it'll probably still be around 70 per chapter.
Because every year there are more girls in recruitment, all the houses have higher retention numbers than in previous years. This means that they're allowed to drop more girls each round, meaning more girls will be cut by more houses before pref round.
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by: geauxgreek!Sep 8, 2014 4:03:36 PM
About bids:
On pref night, the last night of recruitment, you will attend two (...or maybe just one) preference ceremony. Afterwards, you fill out a card ranking both houses - but just because you put, say, Pi Phi over AEPhi (I'm not in either of those houses) doesn't mean that you will get Pi Phi (to be honest, it doesn't even mean you'll get a bid). The sororities compile a list ranking all of the girls that attended their preference ceremony, from 1 to whatever. In a perfect world, if quota was set at 70, your sorority would get the girls ranked 1-70 on their list. But it doesn't work like that, because you attend two houses and both houses have ranked you. So back to the Pi Phi vs AEPhi example: if you put Pi Phi first, Pi Phi put you at 25 on their list and AEPhi put you at 20, you would receive a bid from AEPhi. (That may seem unfair, but it's great because you're going to a house that really, really wants you as a member). The algorithm prints out the bid sheet, giving the sorority the girls they ranked highest (unless another house ranked them higher), until the list equals the quota number. All girls lower down on the list are dropped.
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