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smu ato question

by: jhg   

Hi, I have a family member who was an ATO. What happened to the chapter (shut down in the 90s?) and what was its reputation? Top tier? Upper middle tier? Will ATO ever return?

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#1by: Really?   
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Is there really someone on this site who graduated in the 90's

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by: hahaha   

hahaha I though the same thing

carefully that could be you in 15 years...hopefully NOT

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by: Careful   

The 30-40s year old alumni are the most generous fraternal contributors than any other generational group. We do not want to piss them off. Let them vent and we should learn from them. They are us in 15 years....

The 1980's SMU ATO's were suspended then expelled a decade later. Documented alcohol abuse/poising, sleep deprivation each weekend and up to a full week during initiation, individual pledge countryside abandonment and off-campus demeaning labor for fraternity profit. All are felonies these days in Texas. Learn from the past or we are doomed to repeat it....

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by: Ha   

Hilariois

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#2by: lol   
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I think all of the people responding are bs'ing

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#3by: Wow   
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So let me get this straight, someone from the 90s comes on here to post that, and then someone from the 80s comes on FOUR MINUTES LATER to counter it??

Troll alert!

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#4by: -.-   
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This is a really weak troll

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#5by: All 2 One One 2 All   
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ATO can stay buried. (The above is literally what ATO means, its not Greek).

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#6by: SMU 2017   
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Someone told me ATO was kicked off in the 90's for rolling a pledge in a mattress and throwing him of the roof. He died. That's what all of us freshman this year believe. What really happened?

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#7by: BZPike95   
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I don't know what happened in the early 80s as that was before my time, but there is a lot of BS being thrown around here about what happened to get them ultimately kicked off and the house turned into a service house. I was a Pike, pledged in '95, graduated in '98, lived in the Pike house right next door to the ATO house during the 95-96 school year. In fact, I was on the first floor and my room looked out onto their house. No, nobody died. They had already been on probation when they were finally kicked off. The straw that broke the camel's back, as I remember, was one drunken rowdy night involving a lot of damage, including two ATOs getting drunk and wrestling on the hood of the house mother's car, totally messing it up. She got understandably furious and fed up dealing with their crap, and quit, and that just opened a huge can of worms. I can't remember, but I think ATO nationals may have pulled their charter, not SMU.

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#8by: BZPike95   
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Between middle and bottom tiers:
Kappa Sig - kind of average guys who didn't garner a lot of attention either way

Bottom tier:
Sig Ep - guys of all stripes who didn't get into other houses. Pretty motley
Phi Psi - the nerdy fraternity

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#9by: BZPike95   
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Also, I remember the saying of the other houses about ATOs: "high school zero, ATO hero."

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#10by: TXoilman98   
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Was on SMU campus from 95'-98', and I will second everything that Pike95 has said. Very accurate.

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