am i the only one transferring after a horrible ru

Exactly.

Not really one for greek rank but my boyfriend is leaving uva because he didnt get a fraternity. Felt like it actually was based on where we live... we are out of state and since he didn't know anyone (seriously we live 8 hours away) he didn't get a bid. No big deal, but it is probably true in some aspect that y'all also low key rush based on zip codes. I go to an sec school and yalls rush seemed to care so much more on where you live and who u know....

A lot of OOS guys get bids and across all tiers.

We are from metro Atlanta area- basically if you didn't go to a private school in ATL you are irrelevant. Sure OOS people get bids but it's exclusive as anything and way weirder/ pickier than fraternities at my sec school.

Have you considered that your boyfriend might have some responsibility for his not getting a bid anywhere? Maybe he didn't do rush well.

Did you know anybody in sororities at UVa before you got here?

Shouldn't matter

Several like three or more like ten?

I knew AT LEAST one girl in every house, but for many I knew 5-6

Maybe they don't link you as much as you think.

How relevant were the rec letters? Were they from UVa alumna who knew you, or were they actually kind of a stretch?

how can someone get letters from UVA alumna of every house... that's just impossible

Of course that'd be impossible and probably not even smart to use if you did have them.

But letters from alumna of the chapters you were particularly interested in -- that's possible and might have helped. Certainly wouldn't have hurt.

Just don't believe this. One of my best friends is at Ole Miss and their rush is 100% more "unfair" than UVA. They have fewer houses and more pnms rushing. You have to have a rec to every house, preferably from an Ole Miss alum. And on top of it they started a new system in fall 2016 where the amount of quota you have is based on rate of return. IOW the top houses took fewer pledges than the bottom houses. They had like 1600 pnms to rush, and the top 3 houses were made to cut 1000 pnms btwm Round 1 and Round 2. Their rush is also in the middle of the semester.
So sorry you had a rough rush, but UVA's rush just isn't as "unfair" as Ole Miss, or Alabama.

SSS and SDT. Thanks but no thanks.

Isn't GPB doing COB too? Maybe they're already done.

The post by @freedom about not wanting to join sorority because of what other people think -- well, maybe this is all working out as it should, and you didn't find a spot because you were looking for status where other PNMs were looking for sisterhood.

Tri Sig has a couple of sweet girls but they got a really awkward pledge class. They did not do well during formal recruitment at all. It's sad.

SSS and SDT are the sororitys of last resort. Girls who join got dropped from everywhere else so when you join one of these you're basically telling the world you're a loser. Harsh but true.

But I thought you said you were a quality PNM who got dropped everywhere else but SDT and SSS. Therefore even these sororitys have access to quality PNMs like you and have quality PNMs that become sisters.

What you're failing to admit is that you care more about status than sisterhood.

Woah, not sure where you got that, I'm in a middle tier sorority and quite happy. I'm just trying to lend some insight into why SDT and SSS are bottom. Unfortunately, we go to a school where status is important.

@@well -- of course you're happy because you're looking down on BOTH those you think are lower than you and also those who partake in status culture.

Status culture at UVA isn't going away anytime soon. It permeates every aspect of life on Grounds, not just Greek life. I'm just calling it as I see it. Would I want to be a member of a bottom tier sorority? No. I understand why girls drop.

Then don't complain that you didn't get a bid.

"recruitment is done by who you are not who you know"

So naive.

i do agree though that in general greek life is better at some schools. even the "bottom" houses are still fun to be in. here, not so much

"here, not so much"

Because people don't want to join them because they think they're too good for them.

No. Because neither house felt like home. Tri sig has some sweet girls but they're almost too nice, to the point of being boring. I just didn't find them very interesting. I think SDT has a great sisterhood andI found the girls cool and interesting but we didn't have a lot in common. It felt too much like work to be there.

I hate to say it, but there are reasons they are bottom tier. It's not just a status thing.

You write that Ole Miss doesn't dirty rush and that is just not true. I go to Ole Miss. The top sororities here comprise most of their pledge classes via dirty rushing and their alumnae dictating their new members. It's really not a fair way of building a chapter at all.

Rush at Ole Miss is absolutely done by who you know. The "lower tier" houses are full of OOS girls without Ole Miss connections who would be top tier in their home states. And houses at both schools dirty rush all the time. Greek life at Bama and Ole Miss are the best in the country.

What does this mean?

Keep telling yourself that about the "education" at UVA. In reality, you better have a great work ethic, references, and internships.NO ONE cares what college you have graduated from UNLESS it is IVY and UVA is NOT Ivy. Get a reality check! It's a state school that only those who attend think is that awesome.

Look. I'm transferring and I've mostly agreed with the negative comments on this site but I'm not leaving because UVA isn't a fantastic school. It's very very well respected academically so in that regard you have no idea what the heck you're talking about

omg; why would anyone go to any SEC school over UVA?? I'd be embarrassed to tell anyone I went to Ole Miss or Bama. and "they recruit from prep schools??? om my

no one in their right mind goes from any public ivy to an ole miss or bama.

Girls are shamed for not joining bottom sororitys because of "status" yet here you're saying stay at UVA because of status. You can get a good education at most schools but the UVA name gets you through the door. Same for sororitys, top sororitys will open doors for you. Bottom sororitys won't.

"each sorority has the option to pick the best girls because there really is no "bottom" sorority. A bottom sorority at UA or Ole Miss"

You are CONTRADICTING yourself.

Get over your lack of success at UVa sorority rush. You think you're too good for a bottom sorority and would rather be a GDI.

At UVA, it is better to be a GDI than in either SDT or SSS. For real. There are serious social repercussions.

UVA Greek life is not true Greek Life. Greek Life at other colleges are more organized and more inclusive. And they actually have real Greek activities. And they value LOOKS and APPEARANCE unlike UVA. You should leave and you will find Greek life much better than UVA. Take it from someone who has a sister in a sorority in UVA and I am in a sorority ANOTHER school that has a very strong Greek Life. It's great. UVA is just SAD!

agree with @Why. 3rd and 4th years stop going to frats b/c they just go to bars mostly at that point. if 2/3 of uva can live without being in greek life, maybe there are other things to do on grounds. just a thought.