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This question isn’t about Beta. Fraternities like ATO and Delt get kicked off and over five years everyone leaves. Everyone seems to expect ATO and Delt to be the same as they were when they got kicked off. How does that happen if everyone who was part of the old traditions goes away? I know it happens. SAE got kicked off then came back exactly the same. Some get kicked off and never recover. Some come back as if nothing has changed.