here’s why we won’t get a new sorority
by: info
This question pops up on here every now and then, so I’m just going to explain why UVA will not be getting a new sorority anytime soon.
One problem? A lot of national organizations aren’t interested in UVA because it has a low matching rate. A lot of PNMs drop out of rush which is a huge red flag for nationals because they don’t think they’ll get enough members.
Another reason, UVA FSL needs to be open for expansion by a new npc group. Why aren’t they? Because the current 15 groups are not all meeting quota. They have a duty to current chapters and want to make sure they are happy and doing well before they can even consider adding additional chapters. Also, the argument of “there aren’t enough spots in the current sororities” is not right. Quota is determined by the amount of girls at pref submitting lists each year. If people stopped dropping, the pledge classes would be larger.
Finally, what do some of you think adding a new sorority would do? “The girls need more choices here” doesn’t really make sense. There would not be a magical influx of perfect super popular girls. It would be the same girls that are already here at uva. Still wonderful - but no not really a new choice.
#1 by: honestly
it makes me so sad that so many girls drop bc greek life gives so many social and leadership opportunities. the toxicity of this website makes ppl think srats have bad reps but honestly by ur 3rd year u realize that only weirdos judge u by ur house. sucks cuz greek life here has a lot of history and potential but the UVA obsession w exclusivity is its own downfall
Commentby: sadJan 19, 2021 3:26:35 PM
all this talk about how toxic it is to rank sororities and how much it’s poisoned UVA greek life but people still bump rankings😭 if you’re so good bc you’re top tier why do u need this site 😭😭😭
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by: ^^^Jan 25, 2021 5:37:19 PM
all in this comment. everyone i knew who dropped 1st year even though they might’ve ended up somewhere they wanted 2nd year regretted not having the full greek experience bc they thought people would actually judge them based off house lol
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by: RTFeb 2, 2021 1:56:55 PM
uva greek life would be wayyyy better if people came in with this mindset. the problem is everyone is a Type A personality who just came from high school where they were best in everything so they think they need the “best” frat or srat instead of looking for a chill group of people they feel comfortable with. then they drop and regret it when they see their friends get all the perks of greek life lawl
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by: this one Jan 30, 2022 6:13:04 PM
by: YesJan 16, 2021 1:51:41 AM
by: questionFeb 14, 2021 10:27:06 AM
by: @questionFeb 20, 2021 8:17:30 PM
#3 by: Yes
The issue is that if a "new" Sorority comes to Grounds it will be the new bottom sorority unless by some stroke of luck it has an amazing colonization rush, but that isn't likely. A few years back SDT spent a huge amount of money to recolonize and during Formal Recruitment they only got 1 or 2 New Members and SDT immediately closed the chapter.
#4 by: Why not this?
Why not try free market competition? If sororities were not held back by restrictive recruitment rules, aggressive and ambitious chapters could increase their membership as much as they want. Unambitious groups that lack confidence and feel they have nothing to offer will naturally die out and healthier ones will take their place. Under that model the entire sorority system here would grow and strengthen. Other nationals would compete to come here.
The truth is, the sororities here that are weak now have always been the weak ones. If Panhellenic recruitment restrictions could help those weak chapters, they already would have. Turn loose the competitive spirit.
by: LolJan 16, 2021 7:51:56 PM
by: @LolJan 16, 2021 9:55:49 PM
Sorority recruitment should be EXACTLY like fraternity recruitment. The absurd amount of regulations that sororities place on recruitment isn’t helping anyone, fraternities barely have any regulations and everyone has a good time and ends up with people that they like.
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by: ?Jan 16, 2021 10:15:29 PM
sorority recruitment at UVA is the exact same process as it is at every school. i agree that it should be more relaxed but u can’t argue that it’s the cause for the low match rate when every school has this process
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by: lmaoJan 16, 2021 10:16:22 PM
by: Empathy??Jan 16, 2021 10:35:13 PM
Empathy you say. Right now the bottom tier sororities have NO chance to improve under the current scheme. What could be more appropriately empathetic than to allow the weak to cast off the highly restrictive bonds of Panhellenic recruitment rules and engage in competitive recruitment in order to improve their standing and experience? Just asking’.
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by: Ya empathyJan 16, 2021 11:25:02 PM
you’re contracting yourself. you initially claimed that sororities who were “weak” weren’t doing well because they lacked ambition. As far as I can tell every chapter at this school tries really hard and has great women, making that claim untrue. then, you say the system is at fault, not the chapters’ own ambition, so which is it?? Like people said above this system works across the country. Perhaps the real issue is uva’s own elitism and inability to acknowledge that every chapter has great women. Seriously, there isn’t one chapter here that someone couldn’t find a home in and be happy. Like there’s 150+ people in a chapter bro, if you can’t find people to vibe with, that’s on you. Maybe stop putting people down and referencing some weak natural selection Darwin bs and your econ 2010 class...
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by: YesJan 22, 2021 4:25:53 PM
by: YesJan 27, 2021 10:24:19 AM
by: dJan 17, 2021 9:25:40 PM
all the girls get into the parties here too first year just think the list matters cuz they’re first years lol
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by: lameJan 17, 2021 11:42:02 PM
Exactly. And then they drop recruitment halfway through when the top houses drop them because they don’t know any better.
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by: RTJan 29, 2021 8:40:50 AM
it’s all cuz of rolling stone. there weren’t lists before that and anyone i know who was here before then thinks it’s a joke that people think their srat means they’ll get into a party or not. really destroyed greek life here
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by: bumpFeb 13, 2021 9:27:57 AM
by: ??Jan 22, 2021 1:41:07 PM
by: YesJan 22, 2021 4:23:25 PM
ISC give special access to restart sororities that have lost so much market share as to necessitate closure, time and again. Rinse and repeat. ISC doesn't actually "new" competition in.
It's all part of keeping the mystique of "tiers" and "rank" as they are now. It's market manipulation at the expense of the consumer, aka PNM.
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by: ???Feb 7, 2021 1:39:03 PM
by: SeeFeb 7, 2021 1:56:53 PM
#9 by: Go
Very often formal recruitment ends up with girls saying that joining that house was the best thing that ever happened to them. More often than not, giving that house where you are WANTED a real chance will seal the deal. The stupid tier stuff pushed on this site is not real, and you only finally get the truth of that when you are actually in a sorority here. No one goes around ranking and judging entire houses, or puts us in a social pecking order. Individual people, oh yes, you will be judged, so pay attention to your own personal image.
by: asaFeb 14, 2021 4:52:29 PM
by: but...Feb 14, 2021 5:44:56 PM
by: ok?Feb 14, 2021 5:50:06 PM
by: dean grovesFeb 20, 2021 4:51:52 PM
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by: truthJan 17, 2021 1:56:53 PM
part of the reason tiers don’t rlly matter here but also ppl don’t go greek is bc u have orgs like Guides that are their own mini-frat and people at UVA are so involved they meet new ppl through those. ISC needs to emphasize an environment of inclusivity and the benefits of joining a srat u can’t get anywhere else tbh
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